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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    They played thousands of matches in feast, if frontline and fold count that's A LOT of matches(say ppl with alpha wolf title + feast matches + frontline at least 100k matches or more

    But if you really like pvp rather than just there for the mount
    No one is stopping you from being one of top players
    And Hardcore Raiders put in hundreds of hours of progression in Savage content, should i remind you how long it took most to clear Gordias? and now the Gordias mount can be gotten easily with no effort, one group does not work harder than the other so PvPers don't deserve special treatment.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    They played thousands of matches in feast, if frontline and fold count that's A LOT of matches(say ppl with alpha wolf title + feast matches + frontline at least 100k matches or more

    But if you really like pvp rather than just there for the mount
    No one is stopping you from being one of top players
    You're selfish as hell dude.

    Hardcore raiders put a large amount of time learning mechanics and clearing fights. Yet the raid rewards are obtainable by everyone ?
    Here we go again: why the pvpers (0.5/1% of the community ?) should have some exclusive items ?

    And you don't even have to be good, just an entire list of people win trading for you
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    Last edited by Watachy; 11-04-2016 at 10:05 PM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    But again why do PvPers deserve something to be exclusive to only them when Hardcore Raiders put in as much hardwork as they do but lose their exclusives?, for an example A12s currently has an exclusive mount only available to those who clear the content yet when A12s inevitably gets echo added the mount will still be 100% droprate regardless.
    You're basically saying the same thing for PvErs right now the top PvErs have the mount so what's the issue? That it won't ever be in the game again? It will just reskinned in some fashion that's the issue with this fan base people want it now and when competition comes along everyone's up in arms over a mount in PvP that should be for top PvPers. And it has encouraged people to PvP I get <5 minute ques in Levi during the day hours compared to 2 weeks ago I had more than 30 minutes during peak hours.

    As regards to the mounts they are unique and should be, people are still upset over people who participate and use their time in PvP when most of the playerbase never cared for PvP and now they care? I guess the shoes on the other foot lol which is quite comical I PvP'd quite a bit back when Frontlines came out and took part in quite a number of Feasts and all people ever said was "this is a PvE game" and now everyone's upset over a collectible that is rewarded for the best PvPers? Sounds pretty entitled to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    I don't know if I'm missing what you're trying to say here, but I never said the mounts shouldn't come from PVP. Wolf Marks are the PVP currency, so with the proposed solution you'd still have to PVP for them.

    I edited that bit in case my wording was weird.
    @solracht I said I don't agree as it should be just for the PvPers since that's all they do is PvP and don't raid as it takes a huge amount of time to raid and keep their ratings going across the data centers. If they did this they'd also have to put the gear you win for being top on your server as well as the trophies for your team and that'd make a lot of PvPers mad when they don't have anything to begin with. Your idea is just backwards it's rewarding the non-PvPers what the PvPers have which is not a lot really if you think about it that's why I disagree.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    You're basically saying the same thing for PvErs right now the top PvErs have the mount so what's the issue?
    The issue i have is that will not always be the case, right now only the top PvEers will get the mount but Savage content when it's outdated will get echo added meaning everyone can then get the mount for little effort, so in all fairness the mount should be made easier to get once the season ends.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Your idea is just backwards it's rewarding the non-PvPers what the PvPers have which is not a lot really if you think about it that's why I disagree.
    Only as backwards as the rest of the game, which does things like rewarding non-raiders with raiding rewards as long as they wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    Btw if you are saying this reward is weigh too exclusive... How about that unique furniture for most-top players in each datacenter
    As things stand, I don't think the furniture/armor should be timed exclusive rewards either. I do try to focus on talking about "rewards" (mount/minion/armor/trophies) rather than just "mount" but most of my posts tend to start by quoting someone else's and I can't help but end up rolling with their context (usually mount talk). That's my bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
    2-If the mount for top players can be obtained later anyway, whats the point to set this reward
    So the note should be "top 100players get the right of using the upcoming mount halfyear earlier"
    This is how a lot of us raiders feel about our rewards, but this is the tone that SE set for their game.

    As I have been saying, I mainly ask for consistency. Either handle PVP rewards the same way PVE rewards have been handled for the past 3 years, or make it very clear that PVE is going to get timed exclusive rewards from now on, just like PVP. Either option is fine with me, I can't speak for everyone else.
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    Last edited by solracht; 11-04-2016 at 06:31 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakiria View Post
    The Idea of making them available with wolf marks sounds far better to me, but besides that... Are you okay?
    Except that wolfmarks support afkers to make matches over fast etc. nty we already had that with other wolfmark rewards.


    To the other person who complains about wintrade in soloq there aren't wintraders go check their names and how they play. Light party yes their were wintraders but they got resetted and a warning/temporary ban etc. Also ppl don't complain about the system they just suddenly got mad cause smth they want is a reward. Ppl forget that you can get the rewards in 2seasons before they change it again.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriens View Post
    Can someone explain what they changed, if anything from Season 1? I want to know if S3 ranked players are earning their rank "rightfully".
    They got it rightfully back then too lol. They made rating loss way less now its much easier to get a high rating
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon1101 View Post
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    Unless you're posting on an alt.. a lvl 56 SMN cannot participate in Feast Ranked matches. Your join date is also October 2016. I'm not discriminating, but it looks to me like you've never been a part of Feast Seasonal Ranking as you have to be lvl 60 to participate. So unless you have a higher main somewhere on a different account, your claims of having done "a lot of PvP" and knowledge of knowing that "getting in top 100 isn't hard" is pretty much just lying as you haven't done it.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
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    You're wrong, people complains because it's a limited time and numerous reward.
    Why didn't they just put it as a reward you get at anytime with efforts like raiders ?

    Actually pvpers are the smallest amount of players and they get exclusive items. But when i ask for exclusive items for raiders, people are crying "you're just a small amount of the community STFU".
    So yeah im gonna take this stupid argument and put it here: if you have exclusive items from pvping, then i want some from raiding.

    If i don't i will still complain.

    /end thread
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Except that wolfmarks support afkers to make matches over fast etc. nty we already had that with other wolfmark rewards.
    AFKing in matches is a reportable offense, so this won't be an issue.
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