Game is ruined (FFXIV 2.0)

[Godking]

That's not my point. I don't care who invented them. I'm giving WoW as an example. This game is becoming like every other MMORPG out right now in the western market. A clone in FF flavor.

You're giving WoW as an example because you're a part of the game group who can't compare it to any other game other than WoW. When I saw you compare this to WoW I lol'd a little bit, as I'm sure everyone else in this thread did

[Demacia]

Hey man, chill. I played FFXI longer than any other MMO, but I can still be objective about it. I quit before Abyssea, so I don't know what it's like now, but that game was totally for masochists up until halfway through TOAU and maybe early WOTG.

It's ass now. I miss being a masochist.

Why did they have to ruin it

[Pyrix]

Because it was shit, Demacia.

[Demacia]

Because it was shit, Demacia.

Pft, like your opinions.

[Wolfie]

Yikes, tough words in this topic.

[Demacia]

Yikes, tough words in this topic.

With a thread title like that, who would've guessed?

[yaten]

i like the change but its dumb to charge us before it comes out. i really hate how SE keeps trying to get over on us im not paying a danm dime for this game pre 2.0 and maybe even post 2.0 to.better mmo's will be out this year so why wait to 2013.

[Dubont]

i like the change but its dumb to charge us before it comes out.

THis....entirely

[Jennestia]

Even FFXI had add-ons, those were maybe not official, but they were there.

Which heavily ruined the balanced of the game for those who chose to play without them, just like every other MMO out there.

[Solstice]

I hate how everyone is worried about "copying"

There ARE such things as right answers sometimes. For example, an Auction House-type economy is probably the "right answer" in most MMO cases. The biggest problem FFXIV has is that FFXI did a lot of things right, and FFXIV purposely tried NOT to be like FFXI and therefore ended up doing a lot of things wrong in the name of being unique. An idea SHOULD be copied if you can't think of a better one!

Trying solely to be unique does not result in a good product.... it often ends up, as we saw with FFXIV, in stubbornly using bad ideas in place of proven successful ones.

And using ideas from other games is not necessarily "copying"... What makes a game great is not how UN-like the others it is, but how WELL everything is executed.

So you can't tell based on a concept future plan if the game is copying anyone or not - the devil is in the details and HOW all these things actually get implemented and executed.

Almost nothing is truly innovative anymore - it's taking the same old ideas and doing them BETTER than the all the others that really makes a game stand out.