Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[ToasterMan]

I can dodge everything in A12, everything, except the absolutely unavoidable things like Mega Holy and Temporal Stasis. My #1 cause of death in A12 today: Mega Holy after getting hit with Blazing Scourge, or a Temporal Stasis, and I would've survived Mega Holy if not for the fact that I received no heals after the aforementioned unavoidable attacks. Or healers trying to rely on AoE heals to cover it, but said heals, more often than not, don't reach me because I'm a BLM.

You could.....I dunno....try being in range for the AOE heals? Bard was probably playing ballad because A12 is a very healing intensive fight. During the add phases both tanks will get hit HARD.

[Violyre]

I had an interesting person in my Gubal Library HM the other day.

I was tanking, and had two friends as DPS with me, so the healer was random. They were decently equipped so I went to do a large pull after they casted Protect. It didn't end well. As we regrouped, he said he wasn't ready for the pull. He didn't say anything, but everyone I know takes casting Protect as being ready.

At this point, I dropped down to single pulls. He tells me that I can pull more, I said "I'm not sure if you're ready yet."

His reply was linking the Sophia axe and telling me that *I* wasn't ready. I was wearing the i250 crafted axe with materia in it, so it wasn't like I was wearing completely outdated stuff. All of my group was like "Really?"

We ended up booting him because he was a jerk.

Another story, same day actually!

I queued leveling roulette as a healer, and got Ifrit. Lucky me, right?

Obviously not since I'm posting it in this thread.

The tank had Ifrit in the middle, and spun him around the entire time. Had a MNK in the party that couldn't get their positional. And yes, we tried to educate him, but it was pretty clearly a troll.

[Lacework]

And then the group began to tear into me. It wasn't directly at me, but several comments went out about "crappy tanks" and "never had a run like this," and "now what did we learn, folks?". I didn't keep the chat log, but the passive aggressive berating was on a level I haven't seen since I quit WoW. It frankly left me on the verge of tears.

-I feel you, brother. Even though I main WHM, which could get stressful sometimes, I am legitimately terrified of tanking because of things like that potentially happening. People can be crap buckets, and that's not fun.

But anywho, onto this crap bucket. One time, I queued up for Leveling roulette as a BRD, and I got this Stone Vigil NM party with a NIN, an AST and a sprout tank.

Well, the whole party almost immediately fell right the hell apart, because the NIN kept running ahead of the tank and aggroing huge groups. The tank could barely hold grab aggro because the NIN kept running around, and the tank didn't have flash. And the poor, poor AST was barely able to keep up even with Bene 2.

So we wiped on the first mob, and then this NIN went friggin' BALLISTIC on this AST. They started cursing them out, calling them a crappy healer "who can't heal"/"isn't healing", and then started getting passive aggressive throughout the next pulls all the way to the first boss.
No surprise, we wiped on the first boss. Cue the NIN trying to disband the party (it failed), and then I piped up and explained the boss mechanics, but not before the NIN screamed at the AST again and said that they were the problem because they weren't healing, same deal same deal. I pretty much had to stomp that guy down right then and there, because I saw that AST's MP go down hard, and even had to pop the mana song. I then told him to let the tank grab the boss first, because, guess what, the reason why they died, and we wiped, was because the NIN friggin' ran in without waiting for the tank, and proceeded to aggro the boss, just like all the other mobs that we had killed at that point.

After that, I just explained all the mechs, because clearly someone didn't know how dungeons worked (at lv 43, and no sprout, that's pretty much inexcusable, Mr. NIN).
The NIN became oddly silent after the whole tirade, at least until they started shouting passive aggressive statements like "omg this is the longest dungeon i've ever been in" in all caps during the final boss.

The best part was, I got no comms out of it. -sarcasm-

No no, wait. The actual best part was, literally 2 days later, I found out that they lived on my server.

[Carosella]

And then the group began to tear into me. It wasn't directly at me, but several comments went out about "crappy tanks" and "never had a run like this," and "now what did we learn, folks?". I didn't keep the chat log, but the passive aggressive berating was on a level I haven't seen since I quit WoW. It frankly left me on the verge of tears.

I've been on the same situation, did the exact same mistake... And got the exact same reaction from the group, maybe just a bit more personal. I don't know how you felt, every person is different! I'm not trying to minimize your feelings here!

But I can tell that the best thing you can do is to Keep Tanking. The role is really fun and, over time, you will grow a thick skin. People were telling me to uninstall and "get cancer". I just laughed and said I was sorry. Somehow we still did it, thanks to Healer LB 3.

I hope that one day someone will tell this horror story about me here =P

Don't give up, skeleton \[T]/

[Sigmar_Heldenhammer]

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And then the group began to tear into me. It wasn't directly at me, but several comments went out about "crappy tanks" and "never had a run like this," and "now what did we learn, folks?". I didn't keep the chat log, but the passive aggressive berating was on a level I haven't seen since I quit WoW. It frankly left me on the verge of tears.
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That's rough, man. Keep your chin up.
Been tanking since tanking existed, MMO-ing since MMOs existed, and you will always come across people like that; best advice I can give you is don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.

Keep tanking and focus on the good times. It's worth it, and the DF queue is wonderful.

[Nestama]

He's probably sub level 40 in the main game, and couldn't figure out how high level BLM plays just from PotD. It's hectic and fast-paced in there.

Just looked him up, he's Level 41 on BLM. He gets a slight pass on being unaware, however every so often, he did absolutely nothing (I assumed he stopped to look at his tool tips or something. Boy was I wrong) and as I said before, he's had two tiers (and maybe even Floor 31-50, making it four) to try and figure out how BLM works. I might not have been the best DRK or NIN when I threw them into the Palace, but I tested every new ability and then read their tool tips after beating the boss (since that's pretty much the only time you're ever safe in PotD).

I'm hoping after this wipe on Floor 90, he's taken the time to look up a quick guide on BLM. Level 50 rotation is perfectly fine if the Enochian rotation is a bit much.

[ToasterMan]

Story

To all DPS and healers that complain about Tanks being so few, THIS is why.

[Ametrine]

snip.

When I was leveling BLM in PotD, I was all over place trying to learn the rotation. I saw Blizz3 and Fire3 were the most powerful options I had, so I attempted the same rotation with Blizz1 and Fire1. Everyone was moving so quickly as smoothly that I never had the chance to pause and read tooltips to figure everything out on the spot.

One of my fellow players noticed, and said "You know spamming fire 3 isn't what you are supposed to do."

My response was, "OMG I've not leveled BLM this high please help."

He told me I could use the third tier spells to skip transpose and jump right on astral/umbral 3 before spamming fire/blizz as needed and recommended his favorite guide after we finished.

He was a cool dude.

[Mysterysword]

You could.....I dunno....try being in range for the AOE heals? Bard was probably playing ballad because A12 is a very healing intensive fight. During the add phases both tanks will get hit HARD.

I already dodge everything I can and shield for what I can't. But when I'm at 4k HP and Mega Holy is coming out, there's just nothing I can do except wave goodbye. I can't help a healer who tries to cover everything with AoE heals. Or a healer who's too busy trying to DPS to heal the actual DPS. I'm not the only DPS I've seen this happen to, because I specifically recall seeing a NIN die to this exact same problem. Also, there are several possible reasons why a DPS might not be in range for an AoE heal after Mega Holy/Temporal Stasis/Blazing Scourge. Running to dodge Sacrament/Communion/Gravitational Anomaly, for one, having been tagged with Aggravated Assault, for another, and as a rule of thumb, I actively try to ensure that I'm standing nowhere near anyone else when I have Prey, just in case someone gets the bright idea to stack with me for that.

Allow me to clarify about this BRD: they had Mage's up during the time portal phase, when they were completely alone and were nowhere near the healers, and in a phase where everything depended completely upon their ability to do damage. They also got called out by the healer for standing right in a Gravitational Anomaly, and deliberately dived right into a Shared Sentence stack when they had Aggravated Assault. When Alexander Prime was in the single-digit percentages. It actually caused me to genuinely flip my lid and swear in all-caps at that, and I know I wasn't the only one thinking that way.

I don't like it, but I can get why a BRD wouldn't play Foe. Having Mage's up when there's no need for it, and in a phase when it would be nice not to have your damage dealt cut by 15%, on the other hand, is just plain idiotic.

[Frowny]

You could.....I dunno....try being in range for the AOE heals? Bard was probably playing ballad because A12 is a very healing intensive fight. During the add phases both tanks will get hit HARD.

In all my A12 runs, I've never needed MP during that phase. If anything we needed raw DPS. Now the phase after yea, that's when it hits healers really hard.