Main Scenario Restriction Bloodstorm - Very Very Bad idea.

[Allistar]

Why can't the expansion be completely removed from the MSQ... we're not asking to get rid of the story...but continue telling stories...just allow those of who want to pick and choose when we want to do the various stories. Just like 3.4 if we didn't complete the coil raids it doesn't stop us from playing the story....so why can't it be the same for the expansion...I'm sure there will be enough NPC's to provide all the necessary back story of everything that happened since the beginning of ala mihgo existence.

[Derio]

Just enable new jobs through potd. That way new players can try out new jobs without actually obtaining them

[Kosmos992k]

Why can't the expansion be completely removed from the MSQ....

Because the story is a central part of the game, the world, the lore and pretty much everything in the game; and also because it would create an even deeper chasm dividing the player base due to the disparity between those who know the game and those who only know the end-game - something that is not currently an issue.

[Chalbee]

Opinions are a wonderful thing aren't they? I still don't see anything wrong with them gating jobs behind MSQ. If a player wants something, they'll typically do whatever it takes to get.

You don't see anything wrong with wasting hours, days, weeks possibly of your time leveling a job just so you can unlock the one that you think looks most interesting?

[Kosmos992k]

You don't see anything wrong with wasting hours, days, weeks possibly of your time leveling a job just so you can unlock the one that you think looks most interesting?

Wasting time is literally the point of playing games.

[Terribad]

Because the story is a central part of the game, the world, the lore and pretty much everything in the game; and also because it would create an even deeper chasm dividing the player base due to the disparity between those who know the game and those who only know the end-game - something that is not currently an issue.

You realize there's loads of people that have no clue what's going on story wise now right? No one cares lol. Not knowing the story doesn't prevent someone from clearing the dungeon or raid. There won't be any "deep chasm" lmao.

I think people that care about the lore just want to feel important. No MMO in existence ever had a huge rift between players that pay attention to lore and those that don't.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

You don't see anything wrong with wasting hours, days, weeks possibly of your time leveling a job just so you can unlock the one that you think looks most interesting?

No, I don't. We're gamers, wasting time is sorta the default setting. XD More to the point, the HW jobs were clearly designed with the extra skills from their ARR counter parts in mind, so regardless, in order to actually play the respective jobs properly, unfortunately, you most certainly do need to play the appropriate jobs for the proper skill set. Don't forget you're also talking to someone that has all 60's, mind. X3

[Kosmos992k]

You realize there's loads of people that have no clue what's going on story wise now right? No one cares lol. Not knowing the story doesn't prevent someone from clearing the dungeon or raid. There won't be any "deep chasm" lmao.

I think people that care about the lore just want to feel important. No MMO in existence ever had a huge rift between players that pay attention to lore and those that don't.

Note my words "it would create an even deeper chasm dividing the player base due to the disparity between those who know the game and those who only know the end-game". Playing through the story teaches you about the game, not just the story.

Not sure how you come to the conclusion that there is no rift, this topic alone illustrates that there is a divide. Playing a game like FFXIV without participating in the story is like going to a fancy restaurant and ordering a lettuce and watercress salad - with no seasoning and distilled water. The atmosphere, table setting and waiting staff are wonderful, but you're missing out on the core of the experience by ignoring the work of the talented chefs in the kitchen.

[Zojha]

Wasting time is literally the point of playing games.

More precisely: Wasting time in an enjoyable manner.

Which is where the issue of subjectivity comes in. If all a game had to do was to waste time, well, there are some pretty infamous asian grinders to do just that. But that's scarcely enjoyable for most.

[Reynhart]

You realize there's loads of people that have no clue what's going on story wise now right? No one cares lol.

Pretty bold (no pun intended) claim you did here.

Not knowing the story doesn't prevent someone from clearing the dungeon or raid. There won't be any "deep chasm" lmao.

No, but not being able to clear the raid and thus not being able to learn that story was a pretty big complain for Coil, remember ?

Not being able to clear Steps Of Faith was also a big problem, even though, at that point, the only thing gated by it was...story.