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  1. #5881
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    JisKing98's Avatar
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    Ul-Dah
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    Yasuo Theunforgiven
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Was lvling my drg when my leveling roulette popped. So its quarn or w/e its called. Im with a blm,drk,sch. So we going about killing the adds and just before the boss when i noticed the drk doesnt have Darkside on. So i thought i tell him about it. Actual response "Bosses only". the blm starts to try and help as well. Says hes a drk main. So he tells him listen darkside and grit go together. you need to have them on at all times. His response back was no i only use it during boss cause of mp issues

    Once again no response. Now we start to notice that he isnt the best of tanks. Doesnt tank aggro with adds or anything. ok fair enough just got drk and is learning it ok we get it. The first thing he told us is that he doesnt want to take the time to redo his hotbars. At this point the blm starts to get triggered. He decides that this guy is ether trolling or just bad and doesnt want help.

    TL;DR Apparently Darkside is only to be used for boss battles.
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  2. #5882
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    DRK story
    Out of curiosity, did someone explain Blood Price to him?
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  3. #5883
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    JisKing98's Avatar
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    Yasuo Theunforgiven
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    Faerie
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Out of curiosity, did someone explain Blood Price to him?
    We did, Can you guess what his response was? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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  4. #5884
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    DRK has mp issues
    I don't even have the job unlocked, but I've seen this story often enough to know that's just a lazy excuse for not figuring out how the mechanics work.
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  5. #5885
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    Meillquei's Avatar
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    Character
    Cillien Temperlain
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Did a run of Aurum Vale the other day.

    On the first boss, the Machinist DPS kept running and grabbing the fruits closest to the boss. So me, a melee DPS, had to keep running far away to grab the fruits. I guess it's not a huge deal, but it was getting annoying.

    On the next boss, the tank wasn't avoiding the swipes at first and kept taking unnecessary damage.

    On the last boss, the Machinist wasn't even touching the adds. I couldn't kill them fast enough by myself and they kept going after the healer. We eventually wiped because the healer ran out of MP. We killed the boss on the next attempt though.
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    Last edited by Meillquei; 10-11-2016 at 01:26 PM.

  6. #5886
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    We did, Can you guess what his response was? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
    Fair enough!
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  7. #5887
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    Terrible DRKness
    I main DRK, and there is never ever a time that you should NOT have Darkside on. Granted, at level 35, you don't have any of the skills that are locked behind it, but it still augments your damage by 15%, and offsets the 20% reduction Grit gives you. So you only suffer a 5% damage reduction when you use them together rather than the full 20% while tanking.

    I really hate it when DRKs use the "MP issues" excuse to not use Darkside. You have Blood Price to help with MP. You also have your Syphon Strike combo to help as well, and if you Blood Price+Unleash spam when pulling, you can generate enough to hate to not even have to use your aggro combo on trash pulls, allowing you to Syphon Strike instead (and restore MP!).

    At later levels, you can't use Dark Arts+Souleater (which is your most potent combo), and you lose access to Dark Passenger, Dark Mind, and then at 58/60 DA+Abysmal Drain (great way to self-heal during large trash pulls, and easily spammable with Blood Price active) and DA+Carve and Spit.

    Take away that DRKs soul crystal. :/

    (And he does realize he will have to rearrange his hotbars eventually, right? Or is he just going to keep using level 1-30 skills? >.>)
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 10-11-2016 at 12:59 PM.

  8. #5888
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    Man I'll never have that day where I can tell someone off just of how they come off to people, I'll never get that chance to give back what some of these " pros" and badases give out to people everyday. You don't ducking need to attack someone who's new to a fight cause their new. Why don't people instead of insulting people how about oh I DON'T KNOW. HELP THEM! OH but thats not my job, I"m trying to relax, watch a video be pro like I am. blah blah boohoo blahh. I'm so sick of people and their crap acting like their shxt don't stink. Man I just want ONE day... just ONE. But it'll NEVER happen cause good people always lose and shxtty horrible people always win cause LIFE. :/
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    Last edited by cammi; 10-11-2016 at 04:36 PM. Reason: Missed spelled those words on purpose.

  9. #5889
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    Acantha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Acantha Ibara
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    Actual response "Bosses only". the blm starts to try and help as well. Says hes a drk main. So he tells him listen darkside and grit go together. you need to have them on at all times. His response back was no i only use it during boss cause of mp issues

    Once again no response. Now we start to notice that he isnt the best of tanks. Doesnt tank aggro with adds or anything. ok fair enough just got drk and is learning it ok we get it. The first thing he told us is that he doesnt want to take the time to redo his hotbars.
    Oh dear... what lvl? I mean yeah, when you first get darkside it's like woah wait where's all my MP going!? But my bf explained to me you spend more MP taking it off and on and to just leave it on and remember to use some MP regain abilities (tbh not even that many...)
    Completely understand why the BLM was upset too, it's painful when someone's doing something on your main you know is so wrong... and the hotbars. Really? As HyoMinPark already said, yeah maybe it's a pain but he's gonna have to edit them eventually! >.<


    On a confused note for my own story, a little while ago had a WoD run (can't actually remember which of the three but one of those) with 2 bards, one sang Ballad constantly and the other sang Foes. I told the one singing ballad that they didn't need to do that unless (mainly) the healers needed MP. They said they were only singing it for the other BRD to keep Foes up. Just shrugged it off as it seemed to work out but... it was a little odd. Is that what should be done with two bards? Not professing to be a brilliant bard but thought I knew my songs by now so this confused the hell outta me!
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  10. #5890
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    Squigley's Avatar
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    Character
    Miko Yaong
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 81
    I had a really nice A11N first run on the first week of the patch!

    Apparently a couple of mentors (tank & healer) were running it for the loots together. So the healer suggested kicking my tiny BLM potato behind when I got locked out of the boss fight because of watching the cutscene. But luckily I wasn't kicked. Group wiped, I joined the second pull. Our off-tank was also new and made some mistake with the add or somesuch. Group wasn't able to recover and there was a second wipe. The main tank mentor went all ape-poop on the off-tank and the mentor-duo tried to votekick the off-tank out. Vote didn't pass and eventually we cleared. And of course the only tip about fight mechanics from the mentors came when I asked if there's anything I can do when I get marked for prey.

    Oh wait, that wasn't nice... What's the word...
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