Why is Yoshi P turning his back on the playerbase that loves this game the most?

[Elkanah]

As a general discussion, after having been through a vast majority of games ranging from mmo's to fps shooters, what could Final Fantasy XIV add to the game to extend not only to the Veteran players, but the casual players AND gain some middle ground between both?

Im not talking about more dungeons or more hunts and more quests. Im talking about other content that's NOT in the game.

As someone who played FFXI (and still does today with a sub), a couple things I really think could make a lot of difference and fun are some content pulls from FFXI.

[Elkanah]

HNMs or Pop HNMs. Content that can be done by a controlled group to spawn a monster that is not something able to be done by an ordinary team of 8 players (alliance), but the rewards range from gil to amazing drops that can be geared for the current content or progression (maybe inbetween gear til you can hit that max cap gear ilvl from savage content)

Dynamis: Wide range zones much like Ancient Tower and the like, but reward players based on relics or currency for gil farming among players along with dropping good quality pieces of gear (which, again, can be middle ground content ilvl to help you obtain or achieve content at max ilvl like savage)

Besieged: A zone away from all other zones that houses attacks every day or other day. NPCs we would normally talk to for purchasing select items in the zone can be captured and retrieved, receiving bonuses like gil or currency for the current content that can be used to purchase items not found in dungeons, but also help progression.

[Elkanah]

Im not saying I want EXACTLY these things. We dont need FFXI 2.0; but middle ground content that all players can use or be a part of, and still help or be happy with both content from endgame players and non endgame casuals. But the middle ground will still be there. Does that make sense?

[Jim_Berry]

Probably because those people are more numerous.

FFXIV accounts created are around 6 millions. Even considering FFXI and FFXIV 1.x players, we're really really far from that number. And of those 6 millions, we're not really sure of what people actually stayed to make the (I think) 700k players the game still has.
They should post a recent census of the number of Legacy accounts, and the number of SE account with an active FFXI and XIV subscription. They might be a minority.

I pre-ordered 1.0 on PS3 from Gamestop a LONG time ago, only for it to never be released. I've been here since the beta phase 1 on PS3, and since then, I've only took a two month break due to how poor I played the game, then another 4 weeks due to being out of town for work. During those times, however, I was still subbed (822 days last I checked).

I don't think I can truly ever let this game go, especially considering:

1) I played FFXI from 2005 up until I retired when SE took the game down from consoles.
2) With my current gaming life, I only want to play MMOs. With my loyalty to FFXI, and only wanting to play MMOs, FFXIV is all I need.

Unless I'm going out of town, or there's maintenance, or a power outage in my area, there's never really a day that I DON'T log in.

[FizzleofHyperion]

4.0 will just prove to be exactly everything else we already have seen and it will be HW reskinned. The same repeat when we got when HW came out. Instead of thinkit it was was going to be something mind blowin we got ARR reskinned some a few minor changes.
If SE doesn't start loosing subs things wont change.
It is very sad though that they must start loosing players in order for something to change.
That is the results of adapting to players constantly instead of presenting

To the 4.0 people what do you think will happen thats mind blowing? New jobs that we dynasty warriors button mash away? That new amazing tomestone currency that we havent seen for the 1000 time?
The super nerfs of everything when you barely acheived your goals to enjoy what you acheived before it becomes useless again?
New players getting an instant 60 so they don't have to do anything because someone somewhere things players should not do the same dungeon and content like everyone else on equal terms.
A new relic chapter thats going to be just as of a timesink/gilsink in order for it to be worthelss and not as strong as the current weapons because thats some casual route?

[JunseiKei]

It's impossible to please everyone.

[Astral145]

impossible to please everyone? its possible to please everyone just its not probable..... but i will say the devs could easily change up the formula and do something that is completely "out of the box"

[Reynhart]

I don't think I can truly ever let this game go, especially considering:

Are you sure you're still playing for the real qualities of the game and not by habit ?
I still payed my FFXI account for months before I realized that each time I logged off I just didn't have interest in anything...

If SE doesn't start loosing subs things wont change.

Problem is, you can't prove that taking another path would not result in more susbcription loss.

If you don't like it, just suspend your account. Not as a "Duh, go away and stop bothering us with your whining !" but as a "That's the way you'll express your opinion about the game in a meaningful way".

impossible to please everyone? its possible to please everyone just its not probable

No, it's not. The playerbase is too wide and too heterogenous for that. For anything someone want, you can find someone else that want the opposite.

[JunseiKei]

impossible to please everyone? its possible to please everyone just its not probable..... but i will say the devs could easily change up the formula and do something that is completely "out of the box"

No. It is impossible.

[Astral145]

Its possible but is highly unlikely to please everyone... The biggest issue with FFXIV is that it has no real identity ... FFXIV is all over the place yet its going no where which is a riddle in of itself....

FFXIV really needs to step out of the box and start making real content and decide on what it wants to be when it grows up.