The chance of winning the 3 lines reward of Wondrous Tails is ridiculously low

[Balipu]

A raider certainly isn't going to prolong his raid's static so he can have this uber cool penta meld gear he'll replace in a couple weeks of effort. Just as likely, a crafter isn't going to just sit there and not build up their craft and make this gear themselves in hopes that Santa comes early.

Well here's a very controversial idea. Maybe this content isn't aimed at raiders. Ever thought about that? Lots of different kinds of players play this game. This patch gives a little something to all of them.
Those who are only here for the story get the MSQ, The Scholasticate and Hildibrand.
Others get two new dungeons.
Yet others get Sophia and Normal Alex.
Raiders get Extreme Sophia and Savage Alex.
PVPers get duels and spectator mode.
Poor people get Apartments.
Those who like PotD get new drops and leader boards.
Those who want to do Diadem get new drops.
Yet others get Squadrons.
Even the Gold Saucer gets several adjustments.
So what if Wondrous Tails doesn't appeal to everyone? It doesn't have to.

[HaelseMikiro]

The ONLY piece of combat gear that Tails - Line 3 will give is chest pieces. Looking at the patch notes, you can identify the Tails rewards as they're prefixed with the word 'Ornate'. So you will always have a choice of a 5 slotted HQ 250 crafted chest, or 1 random piece of Ironworks left side, and most of those don't even require overmelding V's to cap anyways. I think SE's basis was to balance a reward good enough that it shouldn't be handout (because all they're really rewarding is free gil at the end of the day, whether you sell the equip or save materia melding it) and a reward that's not so good that everyone feels forced to beat themselves up over trying to get it (some people are free to do this to themselves anyways). As for the combat chests these will be highly valuable for the next 4 weeks. After people start getting Scripture chests and prototype Alex chests, you'll be looking at a 2-3 million gil reward. Nothing to stress over.

Please, everyone avoid getting too worked up over this. I'm sure something else in this patch will be more deserving of rage

[Tint]

Please, everyone avoid getting too worked up over this. I'm sure something else in this patch will be more deserving of rage

i think the uselessnes of the gear is reason enough to rage ^^

if the chance is really that low the reward is simply not good enough. but as i said earlier in this topic, we don't know yet how rare it really is.

[Lewtskie]

Well here's a very controversial idea. Maybe this content isn't aimed at raiders. Ever thought about that?

I did; it's not a difficult thought. Just as easy as it is to realize how useless it will be from the progression cycle of the general player. But apparently you missed that part of the conversation where people were excusing it by saying how useful raiders would find it. I merely gave a reason how that wouldn't be the case.

Different content for different players, who'd have thought? Anyway, read more of the earlier pages and you will see where this comes from.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Where was it shown that the 3 line reward was a piece of gear with 5 slots? Can someone link me?

[Acidblood]

Finished my first book, will probably also be my last...

Before I did Wonderous Tails I thought it would be at least somewhat skill based and show you which task was linked to which slot, allowing you to plan out which 'set' of tasks you wanted to do for 1/2/3 lines. In short it would be a fun and casual way of getting some small bonuses and guarantee a random piece of i250 gear* once per week assuming you put in a bit of thought and effort; more fool me it's just boring RNG

* The WT gear may have 5 materia slots but it is still only i250, and random... anyone can get any piece of i260 (which is up-gradable to i270) in 1-2 weeks and less than a dozen dungeon runs.

PS. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if WT is any good / worth it or not, as it doesn't remove anything from the game, but it is sad (and disheartening) to see yet another new system made DOA by some very obviously bad design choices.

[axemtitanium]

If you use Second Chance Shuffle to complete any 2 lines, there is a 8.33% to complete the 3rd line. This is because placing your 8th stamp in 6 out of the remaining 9 slots will still build toward a 3rd line. A stamp placed in the remaining 3 slots will not be capable of completing a line. Once this 8th stamp is placed, there is only 1 spot left out of 8 that could possibly finish your 3rd line. Thus, the probability is 6/9 * 1/8 = 1/12 = 8.33%.



You can prove this to yourself by completing any two lines in a stamp card. For example:



Place a stamp in each of the open spots, in sequence. You'll notice that for 6 of those 9 open spots, there is exactly 1 spot that will result in a triple line. The remaining 3 open slots are duds.

I'm still working on the chances of shuffling into a double line formation.

[Greedalox]

I enjoyed doing my card today! I'm happy :3

[Fyce]

Got 10,000 gils today. I don't think it ever took me so long to get that amount of gils before.
I hope Khloe like the book I wrote for her, because that's the only one she'll ever get from me.

[Eldevern]

From my point of view, SE abuse of rng as casino mode in all the "original" features he proposes. It starts to really becoming boring (and getting on my nerves). I thought about something fun and new... if they want that bad we do old content, they could probably find something more fun and -especially- less random.

ALL interesting things we could get in the update depends of f****ing random : trees, supra craft stuff, etc. everything else is just routine (memo stuff, craftable stuff, token items etc.). We even can't consider this as team work behind because of rng...

VERY VERY disappointing.