Why is Yoshi P turning his back on the playerbase that loves this game the most?

[Velhart]

This is the problem I have with latests interviews.
Yoshi-P said several time that he's okay with us playing other games. This is not normal. He's a producer, he has a product to sell on us. You can't make a publicity campaign saying "Oh, by the way, it's not a big deal if you don't buy our product, you can go buy our competitor's instead"
The other part is that every time someone asked for something different than the current formula, he replied that the formula is good because we would complain if we had less. Of course we'll be pissed if you give us less content...

It may of not been the best way for him to word it, but he isn't wrong. It is impossible to keep people completely engaged for the maximum amount of the patch time without putting more RNG measures into the game, which ends up making it frustrating in it's own right and addicting in a bad way. Maybe he shouldn't of said "play other games", but it isn't far from the truth. I am sure the team makes the content in attempts to make as much of it as you can for that patch cycle.

[Critical-Limit]

Stuff

I wouldn't say you're guaranteed a death scenario like Cassie doing bad breath 3x in a row.

If you design properly. The problem with badbreathx3 is a simple math problem.

If boss does move A, you should be able to at the very least recover to neutral with some kind of counter or answer. Bad breath was a move that hurt you deeply but didn't kill you but by the time another TP move arrived you might not have yet fully recovered.

All you have to do is make sure each move or mechanic can be answered and reset to neutral before another mechanic is thrown at you. Or that if multiple mechanics are thrown at once. That none of them combined auto kill you. Or make it where if you at least successfully do 1-2 out of the 3 you survive and can reset to neutral.

i personally believe that replayability is more important than the negatives.

[SessionZero]

This is the problem I have with latests interviews.
Yoshi-P said several time that he's okay with us playing other games. This is not normal. He's a producer, he has a product to sell on us. You can't make a publicity campaign saying "Oh, by the way, it's not a big deal if you don't buy our product, you can go buy our competitor's instead"

You clearly have no idea what sort of game experience they're trying to provide if you think this.

[Aillith]

Yoshi-P said several time that he's okay with us playing other games....He's a producer, he has a product to sell on us. You can't make a publicity campaign saying "Oh, by the way, it's not a big deal if you don't buy our product, you can go buy our competitor's instead"

He has designed a game that means you can take breaks. Whether that be for life or other games.

Square produce multiple games. He understands that when FF15 comes out people will stop playing in order to play the new FF. Why should this be considered a bad thing?

Gamers have finite time and the company he works for produces multiple games for varying genres. If he was naive enough to think he could hold a monopoly on the gaming time of his player-base then he would be a terrible producer. That is not how business works and that is now how consumers work.


He understands people want variety and he can't put Pokemon into FF14 - so if you want Pokemon, go play Pokemon.
He understands that in the current climate, to hold people to ransom and say 'you have to play this game all the time in order to keep up' will not work. People will go play their other games and just won't resub to ff14 because they are now too far behind.

Instead he says 'It's ok to go play your other games, like Tomb Raider, or Racing X. FF14 will not give you these things as it is it's own world. When you have finished with them, we will be here to welcome you back and you can jump right back in with no stress of trying to catch up'

He is selling FF14 on it's merits, and one of it's merits is it's come and go playstyle.

[Riardon]

Sometimes I do not understand this sudden bursts of negativity towards Yoshi. I wonder what you will say when Yoshi indeed turns his back away. He didn't. This game is his career's greatest achievement and he will not abandon it to rot like that. The game needs a constant flow of new players to stay alive and till now Yoshi is doing it fine. Sure nothing is perfect and there are many areas the game can improve but saying he turned his back is a arrogant and plain wrong. @Aillith ia right. Some people forget this.

[Felis]

If this game was funded mostly by FFXI players who had double subscriptions and players from 1.0 who backed up Yoshi P during this games darkest hours (refering to that live letter from many years ago when Yoshi-P told the playerbase to keep the subs for a certain amount of time or the game had to be shut down 2011 If I remember correctly)

The shutdown was specified to 1.0
They would have still worked on ARR even with an earlier server down for 1.0

And like ARR, XIV 1.0 was not like XI. Even in the 1.0 forum people were against people who wanted XIV to be more like XI.

[Loony_BoB]

I'm an FFXIV 1.0 and former short-term FFXI player. I outlasted my entire linkshell back then, suffering through the worst of the game and persevering to the point that the game improved and I was able to grow my LS and then FC into one of the most active communities on Sarg. Loved FFXI and FFXIV1.x as they were then despite their flaws, love this game as it is now despite the things I personally don't care for. I don't think I'm owed anything other than what I got originally - the legacy chocobo, the tattoo on my character, stuff like that. That was our thanks. If you wanted to be eternally catered to then you shouldn't have spent your time supporting a game that was getting reinvented from scratch based on majority opinion.

We got more than enough. Seriously. People beg for our exclusive stuff, but still, you want more. We got to actually have a say in what happened in XIV 2.x through player surveys. I would love those to come back, no doubt, but any expectation that legacy players should get priority placement in any way other than the exclusives we were promised from the start (which we got) is incredibly selfish.

So if you're asking if he has turned his back on the players, no, not at all. I do feel it would be excellent to see another official player survey from SE so they can get a better feel for what the players want, but in no way do I feel that Yoshi isn't trying to make the game that he and his team feel will serve their subscriptions (ie, player satisfaction) best.

[Leigaon]

Sometimes I do not understand this sudden bursts of negativity towards Yoshi...

While some suggestions or concerns are valid, a lot though focus on the negative side rather than positive. Yoshi said at first that rebuilding 14 was a gamble, it was a last ditch effort. Since 1.0 had great elements he had to play it safe. It is what most would have done in his situation. Now that things are up and going he can take small steps into the direction he wants. Same time, there's always someone higher up than he is that has no real clue about the gamer-base but knows what will make money at least for the time being. When those two clash in ideas, money will always win...

[Kurogaea]

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I didn't read yet but in short answer to the title, no. I'll read after but, he's turning his back on those who are disappointed in how he game is progressing and not caring regarding the promise of...whats that phrase I'm looking for..."taking the cuffs off"? He wants to keep the game casual-based throughout the entire series, aside from savage modes. Meaning the game will be somewhat of an on-rails cake walk throughout with no sense of innovative content, but story-driven with good music, graphics and such, like a normal FF game but without the difficulty and sense of adventure. From the response he gave to those specific series of questions I can safely say that he meant, "If you don't like the game as it is, feel free to play other games and wait for the patch to drop, I don't give a damn" and "Those who like the game will like it because FINAL FANTASY. Look forward to it".

After all that I'm pretty much done with asking for other things now. That pretty much felt like a fuck you and someone wiping their ass with my money pretty much.....Also Squadrons make me laugh, I guessed right. Now to find that comment and put it under my other ones. XD

Note: Read the post, good points, and I agree with some.

[Rufalus]

I love this game. I don't feel he is turnig back for me and I like how is he doing.
Please, do not generalize.

Me too I started playing in 2012 near the end of v1 and I still play every day, no breaks from the game to sit out waiting for patches.

I participate in every kind of content. Late into the 3.3x cycle my goal became catching every fish in the game, and I achieved it on the last day before maintenance \o/.

3.4 is going to keep me very busy with crafting, and then working on my anima weapons and Palace 200-floor challenge in 3.45.