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    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><
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    I'd wager it's intentional.
    SE likely wants getting gear from this content to be like winning the lottery and not a weekly farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><
    RNG =/= effort
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    Definitelynot Godbert
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    math stuffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><
    I think you don't understand what 'minimal' means. At least half of the required sticker's instances will take roughly 20 minutes, so that's 4.5 * 20 = 90 minutes. An hour and a half just to get half the needed stickers. Assume the other 4.5 need only about 30 minutes, giving us a total of 120 minutes to get 9 stickers.

    Two hours is not bad at all!

    But when you take into account the net amount of time it would take to get the best reward, well, that could be figured out by taking the assumed time, and multiplying it by the probability of successfully getting 3 lines which which is stated at 1 in 476. So, 120 * 476 = 57120 minutes or 950 hours worth of content to guarantee that you get the drop. If you did this everyday, it would take yo over a year to guarantee the best reward.

    This is all under the assumption that: 1. all 9 stickers take the same amount of time to acquire, 2. that after reaching the end of the stack that you WILL get the drop (because in probability it could take more or less than the accounted 476 tries), and 3. there is no second chance points, 4. Worst case scenario! Thinking on average, then it would be near half that value, so, say, 1 in 230 or 476 hours. Still, 476 hours is quite long XP Huh. just noticed what i got matched the probability :/ Might have done something wrong T_T

    What I am trying to state is that this is, by no means, a 'minimal effort' way of getting something. If anything, this takes more effort than anything else in the game, short of the Anima weapons.
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    Last edited by xvshanevx; 10-07-2016 at 06:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><

    ... best? It's 250 gear, which is being handed out like candy. Yes, you can overmeld for an additional 3 slots, but big woop. Secondary stats are so weak, that will make such a small dent in your DPS, and you'll replace it instantly with 260+ gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    That's not actually hard given how absurdly overgeared we are now. I'll just collect some friends and murder him five minutes, tops. We also do not know if syncing will be required. If it isn't, Titan dies in the blink of an eye.

    And no it wouldn't. People are still buying Ironworks en masse now. ilvl 250 will be fairly relevant for several weeks as ilvl 260 will be limited to weekly drops. If Wondrous Tails offered guaranteed slots, people would wait for it before progression-- world first raiders notwithstanding. And again, no. You don't ever need to overmeld grade V materia. I can reach nearly 1,000 on both Craft and Control without overmelding either tool or the body piece at all. Grade V costs a ton because it's tedious and RNG reliant to acquire.

    I do, however, agree the percentage is silly. 1-5% makes more sense; little higher if the guaranteed slots are also random. Currently, this is 0.20%
    He claimed it wasn't faceroll, that doesn't mean it is really hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    I was selling it with my fc during the i90 days. Why do you make it sound like it be would impossible now that we're overgeared, even with level sync?
    I love that you are equating "Not faceroll" with "impossible"
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 10-13-2016 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><
    There is no effort. Its random. You don't need effort when things are RANDOM. Learning takes effort. Reflexes take time to improve. Random stickers take nothing.
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    The OP complaining about 3 lines is whining, yes. HOWEVER the entire concept of the journal is broken, I for example have not gotten a single line in over 6 weeks, not one single reward outside the 300 poetics or 10k anyone gets for collecting 9 seals. The "rng" in this game is so absurdly out of whack, why they continue to center aspects of the game around yoshi's math is beyond me. At a 97% success rate I can fail 1 in every 5 attempts forever, crafting, gathering etc. People are sick of being completely left out of the WT Journal rewards, I dont expect to get 3 lines, but ffs, one line would be nice more then once per 2 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><

    Oh look another person who thinks absurd rng statistics = effort. Week one WT tails released statistics say someone got 3 lines, did that take a lot of effort for them? No, no it did not.

    Effort involves grinding, but I’m sorry wonderous tails is not a grind, it’s a passive activity you do weekly, and if you actually put effort into it, it tends to take 2 weeks anyway to get anywhere close to 3 lines, depending on your LUCK, not effort.

    Also the rewards are quickly outdated with the release of artifact/elemental gear. The pentameld crafting gear is just overkill/for flexing, I can craft everything in the game HQ just fine with my overmelded gear that I didn’t spend a single gil making or melding tyvm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    oh look another thread moaning about not getting the best rewards for minimal effort -_-

    Yeesh ><
    just because you believe that getting barely anything from getting 0-1 lines is fine for little effort doesn't mean people who moan about it is wrong, so shut up and stop forcing your beliefs onto others

    im pissed off about this because i only need 2 stickers to get 3 lines but then i failed just because i couldn't win a 2% chance and pretty much got nothing from this.

    what's annoying is that its a weekly pure base on luck crap instead of being fair and equal, i probably never in my life will get 3 lines while selfish people like you probably won 3 lines 3 or more times.

    i mean would you get a job in real like where you have 2% chance to get $1000 a week and 98% chance of getting $10? no one would get a crap job like that its not worth it.

    i have a better chance of killing satan than getting 3 lines!
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