Class to Jobs Duty Finder Requirement

[alottamcgriddles]

I also fault Palace of the Dead, it's easy experience and many of times I've encountered people playing with their class.

I also see the point of requiring the job, my only but is that the class has more cross-class skills that can be used and that could be a reason. But I can't imagine doing any dungeon 50+ w/o a job. Like ilvl job should also be a requirement for end-game content.

[TaleraRistain]

I agree with the poster who said this was too nanny state for their liking. Plus any sort of DF requirement means I can't go in with my own group and see what we can tackle with outside the box party makeup choices. So I don't support this.

[Bdyer]

I agree with the poster who said this was too nanny state for their liking. Plus any sort of DF requirement means I can't go in with my own group and see what we can tackle with outside the box party makeup choices. So I don't support this.

Think the op specifically said only for df. Preformed parties wouldn't have the issue.

On that note tho, why do preformed parties have to be subject to ilvl limitations?

[Niwashi]

Raiton is takes .5 sec extra and have a long animation lock that will clip into ir next gcd.

It doesn't have any animation lock. It does have an animation, and occasionally the animations themselves might clip a little if you were a bit slow to begin the mudras, but you shouldn't be waiting for the animation to finish. Just fire off the mudras as fast as you can click the buttons, then fire off your next GCD as soon as the timer says it's available and both attacks will go off fine. The animations will catch up.

[SundayTrash]

It doesn't have any animation lock. It does have an animation, and occasionally the animations themselves might clip a little if you were a bit slow to begin the mudras, but you shouldn't be waiting for the animation to finish. Just fire off the mudras as fast as you can click the buttons, then fire off your next GCD as soon as the timer says it's available and both attacks will go off fine. The animations will catch up.

Unfortunately ur next gcd will not come out evenif u mesh it till the animation is finish and firing off mudra runs the risk of mudra delay and landing a bunny.

[Niwashi]

Unfortunately ur next gcd will not come out evenif u mesh it till the animation is finish and firing off mudra runs the risk of mudra delay and landing a bunny.

I guess that could be an issue if you're experiencing enough lag that your commands aren't reaching the server reliably. I hardly ever have enough lag issues for that to be a concern, so I don't wait to see whether a mudra worked, but can just trust that it will because I clicked it. Maybe a player with either a bad internet connection or playing from the opposite side of the world from the server they're on, so lag is a regular concern, might validly favor the shorter mudra combo, but that's cutting down on their DPS quite a bit. On a normal lag-free connection, you can fire off mudras as fast as you can click them. Maybe one time in a thousand or more, it might misfire, but not often enough for that to figure into skill choices.

[FunkyBunch]

Uhh no, Brayflox's Longstop, everyone should have a job.
It's an absolute pain to heal through if they are still a gladiator. It'd be borderline impossible if both the tank AND healer had no soulstone.
I've had that happen. I was NIN'ing and the healer could not keep the tank alive on the first boss (both were soulstone-less). We must have wiped three times before I quit.
I'll take a 30 minute penalty and go watch netflix while I wait to do my leveling roulette, thank you very much.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I have to agree that a soul stone should be a requirement by at least level 50. The game is balanced for people with soul stones at that point, so you're just going to hinder everyone if you don't bother getting yours.

[RLofOBFL]

I had a 60 Glad in Sephirot a few days ago & they spent their time floor tanking before they got swiped off from Sephy's arm.

Job crystals need to be a requirement. Especially. ESPECIALLY. For. Tanks. You can't be a TANK without your crystal, you just become a very very weak dps with a lot of hp & defense. DF needs to be locked for a class on Qarn & up unless you've done your 30 Job quest & have your stone equipped.

But they'd never allow it bc it'd deter newbs that dun wan to do da quest.

[Chalbee]

Okay, it's been a while since I got my first job crystal, but I don't understand all the "Unacceptable" and "no excuse" comments. There are several perfectly legitimate reasons why someone might not have their job crystal.

1. Might not know about it
2. Might know about it, but not realize how important it is
3. Has it on their agenda but just hasn't done it yet or they haven't reached lvl 15 in the off-class required
4. In the case of Arcanist, maybe they haven't decided yet which job they want to explore first

I mean if you gently put down your torches and pitchforks for a second, it's easy to see the reasons why someone might not have it. If you take approx. 3 minutes of your time to talk to them about it, more often than not they will give one of the above as their reason for not having it, and will be grateful for the advice.

Example: Had a Marauder in our FC who asked the FC to run Brayflox with them. I was healing and after the first pull I was like "hm. That was kind of messy, what's up?" Then I saw they were a MRD and not a WAR. Asked them about it, they said they knew about the job thing, but didn't know it was that important. They thought it was just a rubber stamp, going through the motions type thing. We mopped up Brayflox with some more-focus-than-usual gameplay and then they went off to get the job crystal. About 20 mins later I got a tell from them basically saying "Holy crap! This Defiance skill is dope!"

That said, Everyone should have it and use it by Titan. At that point, I think they're in trouble territory, and they will only be making life more difficult for themselves and the people they play with.