Square Enix: Please reconsider putting the Native American war bonnet attire in-game.

[Savagelf]

I love that outfit

[Ametrine]

I think there is merit to the concern that it would look questionable to slap Native American themed gear into the casino area.

But if you look closely, that looks like Godbert is wearing the headdress including set. (can't see his forehead dots to be sure....)

With the Saucer being a sort of catch all place for vanity, dances, mounts, and other weird items they add that don't fit in some story somewhere, it has a good possibility of landing there.

Which is just bad luck and innocent intention.

[fantasticm]

I highly doubt the context in the game will be respectful toward the culture they are borrowing the item from. It almost never is.

It is most likely that the items under discussion will likely be put into the game as level 1 crafted glamour gear, with no introduction, no commentary, no context. I could be wrong, but most 'fun glamour' has been implemented throughout patches the very same way. Either that or they are Gold Saucer rewards.

[Fevelle]

Let's be honest, there are LOTS of thing more "problematic" than a war bonnet in the game. Afro hair, macuahuitl, the Prester, Thavrainian equips and emotes, even the Wrangler set can be seen as problematic.

The fact is, however, that these symbols are not implemented in an attempt to mock the cultures they are usually from. They are implemented into Eorzea culture itself, in a manner that not only respects the cultures but creates a fantasy counterpart to them so people can feel represented in the game, an example being when FFXIV launched in Korea and China, they got exclusive cultural items in the game.

[UnstablePersonality]

No one complained about the thrav set, No one complained about the Sohr Khai/hullbreaker gear, No one complained about any chinese themed gear, heck people asked for it, now suddenly this is a problem? Yet none of those were?

[Savagelf]

Shofie i don't think what you did is wrong but you might been not well place in your desire to do something good. first off you should do alittle more research the fact the native american just want people remember they culture is really important to them don't mind the fact that redskin in Washington they that name. If i have attack your Character i am sorry. the United State has forgotten the Native american to quickly. they slow being forgotten. I encourage you come don't be afraid of anyone when you go vegas take time get know what your talk about.

[Savagelf]

there is way we move forward sometime we all wrong at times this time your in wrong. first i suggest you admit that you are wrong and ask for forgiveness we don't hate you. we just disagree with you as you seen are friend who are native american have made good point.

Nobody want to hurt you we just disagree nor do we not like you. see when you sometime wrong in one opinion people point that out they won't hate you for it.It part grown up to admit when your wrong and realize your mistake we all had do it sometimes

[Masquerade]

Like iv already said, I don't think the item is racist or offensive. But I think what has some Native and -non-Native players feeling a little effy about this type of thing, is not the use of the image itself, but in the fashion that it's being introduced. This conversation always comes up around this time of year.
It's a "custom" It's taking something that is considered very important to specifics groups of people, and categorizing it to be sold on the same shelf as a monster mask, clown hair, and a Batman cape at Walmart. (and for anyone who needs this pointed out to them, no: I am not saying there is a walmart or a Batman cape in Final Fantasy. I am comparing the in-game introduction of the item to the real world item)
It's more about showing dignity and respect then anything else.

There is a big difference between racism and being offensive. Racism takes thought and energy. It's premeditated. Being offensive can happen by accident. One is the product of thought, where the other is from the absents of thought.

The more productive approach to this, rather than debating if it's right or wrong, and if players are "good" or "bad" people for feeling the way they feel about it; would be a thread titled "In honor of the new headdress here is little history that it was inspired by."

There are a few posters on here that sound to be very knowledgeable about it. For one of them to type up a history lesson thread connected with this new item, could be worth the time.

And sure, only a small percentage of people who play the game visit these forums, and would read that thread. But to educated 10 out of 1000 people is not a wasted effort.

As for some users on here...the fact that you are spending more time in trying discredit the OP then to counter the argument itself, says more than you think it does.

[Khemorex]

so OP can u please explain how exactly some pixel in a virtual world can have some kind of impact on any native american who has earned the war bonet for whatever reason ? :P

or is it just ur personal view , wich dosnt have anything to do with what native americans want in the real world ? :P

[SWB]

I agree to op that this piece can be offensive. Though native Americans may want representation in this game and may enjoy using it, I personally, not being of native descent will not be using it