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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdy_reene View Post
    *hugs* I love the way you worded it. I'm Ojibwa(Chippewa) and even though it is annoying they went with the full head-dress as the outfit, (only for its outplayed), I appreciate the fact its even been implemented, and if it means my culture is being admired even in the slightest, or it inspires one younger kid to use google or pick up a book about my people. or any other tribe, I'm happy for it. To me, outfits like these help remind the world we exist, so we don't become some ill forgotten minority that only government restitution/stipends remembers.
    Powhatan, myself and I do agree with the tenacity of the design but I am super glad that our culture gets such recognition even before the second expansion, can you imagine? So many cultures out there that havent been touched yet! I'm glad they implemented it, with how lore rich this game is and to this point euro-centric as it is.
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  2. #132
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    first PC is killed freedom of speech. Second there many thing out there that is offensive in are world one must learn to look past them. I seen nothing wrong with adding the war bonnet i am one that thought cool add beast master job taught a native american themed group in ffxiv. Sometime people say something that is offensive you need be able look past it sometime it help you sometime it doesn't this why people need develop thick skins. If every time people cried PC on something then people will continue to be children in adult body. Look the world is full of thing that offensive sometime they help I happen be christian, I learn a long time ago that the world won't away see world though my desire way of look at it. this the really world folks it not, I don't get offend when i see thing like The vault or like the last supper. Or when then a boss in Aery has an ability called the fall of man. even though that isn't correct word for said ability it should called serpent temperature.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shofie View Post
    I brought this up because it's worth bringing it to the developer's attention, which is my intent with this thread
    Honestly, take every constructive criticizing posts as a lesson so you never do it ever again.

    ( Im talking about speaking on someone else's behalf )
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 09-18-2016 at 08:36 PM.

  4. #134
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    the problem with this thread is simple if say one type of cultural item is wrong then you say you cant do any cultural items. there are both weapons and attire that are considered sacred in many cultures. it is naive to say the issue is only the war bonnet cause in essence your saying your culture is the only important one. i for one admire the native american culture and think it would be amazing to be able to be done up like such a noble and awesome warrior. i can respect your appreciation for your culture but this world is a mixture of cultures and games like this give us a chance to blend them. we all need to start thinking like we are one world of people not thousands of cultures.
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  5. #135
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    With this outlook they may as well not put in any form of cultural anything cause it's gonna offend someone anyway, happens every time, This is a game guys, there are worse things that can happen lol
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  6. #136
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    All wonderful and different an are awesome to be use in fantasy no we don't need think of one world sir we are people who are so different are culture are different are belief are different. We raised differently we taught different we world that have thousand unique different they should be accept not force everyone embrace a one world view. We not creative to be same we created to be different and that should accept not force to the side are nations are different. look no two christian have same belief they very different at times, Nobody will seen world through one person belief this very is shallows, We need accept that we have past that different that we must be able look to learn for the mistake of those that came before us. History has taught us that we shouldn't force people accept what one world belief system, that end in bloody and horrible ends. look at Roman catholic inquisition they believe by torture the where help people return to faith in the church they where wrong.
    We have History to remind Us of these mistake so we don't repeat them.

    That be said the line above me said it best this a video game we here to have fun thanks
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 09-18-2016 at 10:16 PM. Reason: had thin it down

  7. #137
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    That outfit shown on the trailer looks a lot closer to Peru/Inca clothing than Native American due to the colours used
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  8. #138
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    Honestly, i find this thread very pointless, why?

    Because the only people that are allowed to take offense to this item are the natives themselves, if they have not raised any objections about, then none of you here are allowed to say otherwise. Just because it seems offensive to you doesn't mean it is offensive to the native people themselves.

    We have to remember something else, this is a GAME!!! It's not making fun of any racial steriotypes, religion and etc. I read here someone speak of the Thavanarian outfit and everyone dismissed it, and that is a very good example! It's based on Arabic/Persian clothing but because everyone thinks it's cute and shows belly it's ok and should be dismissed from this subject?

    They implemented these outfits to show that they want every kind of people to feel at home in FF14 and now they are trying to reach for the natives, showing that they can come to this game and have their characters dress with native oufits.

    To sumarize : If you are not native, you are not allowed to complain about this outfit.

    This is why our world doesn't evolve, because we are not treating each other equally, and instead we try to find offensive things to complain about.
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    Last edited by Ashewalker; 09-18-2016 at 10:32 PM.

  9. #139
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    I realy hope we can dye those Native American war attire.
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  10. #140
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    Like iv said, I think what has people upset is that the argument implies that if you don't think it wrong, then you must be racist yourself. And so they are responding in aggressive defense.

    Now I myself do not find it racist. As I said in my first post on the thread "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" The only thing I can think of that would make offensive, is if the tied it with the Golden Saucer. To make like an Indian Casino reference.

    But this outfit being offensive or not should still be able to be discussed in respectful ways.
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    Last edited by Masquerade; 09-19-2016 at 12:06 AM. Reason: typos

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