In 4.0 can we please get rid of caster bars on physical ranged jobs?!

[NolLacnala]

Yes hi hello

I progressed and cleared final coil pre-echo as bard. I took on every mechanic I could while perpetually in motion and attempting to keep LoS on my target. Wanderer's Craperret needs to die in a fire.

[Astyrah]

All they'd have to do to fix the issue is lock the skills behind being a certain distance away from the target (some skill are close, some are far, some are in between) it'd be the equivalent of ranged positionals. That would allow them to un-tether BRD and still keep the skill cap high enough to justify an increase in DPS.

you know, i would actually love a playstyle concept like that! 10000x better than cast bars that break the traits of the core class of the job. it would even add a reason to use repelling shot more than just a dps filler or a situational tool useful for avoid mechanics

[Ametrine]

Where is the idea that bard was under used in 2.0? I hardly ever ran high level content without one there.

Whether that's due to how numerous they were or not, no one would fault a bard for bad utility. I always appreciated a song.... When you all held still long enough for your team to remain in range, at least.


The more I look at what people say about WM, the more it seems to me that 3.0's choices to give utility skills to other jobs and slow bards down has put bard in the odd position of losing it's niche as a key support DPS.

Otherwise, it really does just sound like a bunch of people crying "it changed so now it sucks!" over and over. Especially with a population of bards that function perfectly fine with WM.


Bard isn't the job that was fundamentally changed with the level cap increased....

[ChrisBabaganoosh]

Captain's Log: Day 446 since release of Heavensward.

BRDs still salty about WM and continue to complain about it instead of either adjusting or choosing a job that better suits their playstyle.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I just want bard to have ya know... MORE SUPPORT ABILITIES?

Im indifferent to the casting bar. I main a caster so I can't really say its not good or not, I really don't notice it half the time.

Way back in the day, Bard used to cross class Conjurer.

And even at the start of 2.0 still had the healer limit break.

[Zojha]

[...] or choosing a job that better suits their playstyle.

Yeah, why don't they just, uh...play that other ranged DPS without cast times.

You know, that one...what's it called again?

[Kosmos992k]

Yeah, why don't they just, uh...play that other ranged DPS without cast times.

You know, that one...what's it called again?

lol...well Rogue can throw knives, does that count?

[Astyrah]

Yeah, why don't they just, uh...play that other ranged DPS without cast times.

You know, that one...what's it called again?

or they fix bloodletter with WM on and casted gcds getting interrupted after doing a repel shot and the cast bars can stay ^^

the thing with the other ranged DPS class, is that it was designed from the ground up to account for it's caster stance while bard was not.

and some (or a lot of us) who love the skill set and aesthetics of the Bard job do not want to switch so we just deal with it, adapt and it's back to business as usual - this doesn't mean all of us bards are happy with it.

[AlphaFox]

/shrug

I personally think WM and GB are fine as is. Actually got more interested in Bard once I ran through it in the PotD as a level 50. I think people who complain about WM just wanna complain for the sake of it.

[Anzaman]

lol...well Rogue can throw knives, does that count?

*Runs around in Ex dungeons and Trials as NIN, only using "Throwing Dagger" -skill*

"Sorry, it's just my playstyle is different from yours."