Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Fluestergras]

Hullbreaker HM, I was the tank.

• There are two opportunities in the entire dungeon to pull more than one group at a time: Before the first boss, you can pull the four jackals to the coeurl, and right after the first boss, you can pull the two gorillas and the tiger to the other two gorillas.
• The DPS were a ninja and a dragoon - two jobs not really known to be AOE specialists. The dragoon was a friend of mine, and I know she often misses the point when to spam AOE, so she spends most of the time attacking in single target.
• The healer was a scholar who only used Adloquium and Physick, at the final boss I've also seen one or two Succors. They never used any dots, Shadowflare or even Aetherflow.
• Said scholar also never understood the mechanics of the boss fights it seems. He died to the coeurl (and some AOE) during the first boss and blamed me for not tanking it, took every single Megavolt because he never moved to the slime stuff during the second one, and wiped us at the final boss because he got marked, never cleansed his Heavy debuff and didn't make it out of the AOE, causing his own death.

Well, and this scholar wanted me to, I quote, "pull everything". Wtf.

[Awful]

Did Hullbreaker HM as a healer first pull goes okay got a drg/smn for DPS they AoE then we get to the buffalo..and well the Drg stuns so it's on DR (diminishing returns). Tank freaks out calling him a bad DPS says thanks buddy for ruining that stun and everyone leaves but me just sitting in the dust. Get into Weeping City for my weekly same thing happens people over stun the Succub on 2nd boss, DR happens and we wipe. Seriously DPS/tanks and players need to realize that diminishing returns can and will kill you remember Ifrit EX? Pepper ridge farm remembers.

[AutoWhit]

Did Hullbreaker HM as a healer first pull goes okay got a drg/smn for DPS they AoE then we get to the buffalo..and well the Drg stuns so it's on DR (diminishing returns). Tank freaks out calling him a bad DPS says thanks buddy for ruining that stun and everyone leaves but me just sitting in the dust. Get into Weeping City for my weekly same thing happens people over stun the Succub on 2nd boss, DR happens and we wipe. Seriously DPS/tanks and players need to realize that diminishing returns can and will kill you remember Ifrit EX? Pepper ridge farm remembers.

Calling people bad for stunning when they are supposed to be stunning is ignorance. If you want to set up stun order before the fight have at it, but if it's not set up then deal with it....it's the entire group's fault.

[Awful]

Calling people bad for stunning when they are supposed to be stunning is ignorance. If you want to set up stun order before the fight have at it, but if it's not set up then deal with it....it's the entire group's fault.

So wiping in a 24 man Alliance with trigger happy people who have no idea what a stun rotation is? Excuse me for teaching people what DR is and how it can be detrimental to groups, while we're on the subject what about coil1 and 2? If you didn't have Silences or a Silence rotation you were screwed, same can be for Stuns as it follows exclusively in its own pool of diminishing returns. It has to follow it's strict stuns or the entire groups at fault I was a Sch so I can't stun, those people quarreling over a stun, yeah they wasted my time instead of owning up and doing it over again. Even if healers ques are fast there's a bigger picture here that you don't grasp.

[Esp]

Did Hullbreaker HM as a healer first pull goes okay got a drg/smn for DPS they AoE then we get to the buffalo..and well the Drg stuns so it's on DR (diminishing returns). Tank freaks out calling him a bad DPS says thanks buddy for ruining that stun and everyone leaves but me just sitting in the dust. Get into Weeping City for my weekly same thing happens people over stun the Succub on 2nd boss, DR happens and we wipe. Seriously DPS/tanks and players need to realize that diminishing returns can and will kill you remember Ifrit EX? Pepper ridge farm remembers.

Don't forget a silence works just as well on the succubus mob in Weeping City, so it's something else to fall back on if Stun DR has kicked in. Probably better since silence rarely gets a DR xD

[Mysterysword]

Thank you for sharing that. I haven't run the lv 60 SCH quest myself, but I've heard someone talk about how much of a nightmare it was. Combining the need to cleanse debuffs in it with another discussion earlier in the day may provide some insight as to why it was so hard for him. XD

Cleansing debuffs is an absolute necessity in that quest. If you don't, you'll fail it. It's made even more difficult by the fact that you have to cleanse debuffs from a bunch of NPCs, who are all crowded together, making it extremely annoying to have to manually click through all of them and cleanse in time.

Hated that quest, glad I don't have to do it again. Dissipation is an utterly worthless skill as well, so it's almost not worth doing except that I didn't want to leave the tonberries hanging.

[MeiUshu]

Calling people bad for stunning when they are supposed to be stunning is ignorance. If you want to set up stun order before the fight have at it, but if it's not set up then deal with it....it's the entire group's fault.

there is even more ignorance then that, I did say to a DRG one day not to use his stun, the answer was.....your stun and my stun arent the same so is no problem if I use it....when you get those answers you just know ignorance is not always in one single side.

[Aosha]

Hmm I found another "no Darkside outside bosses" DRK in Sohr Khai.
This one was still miles better than the other one, actually switching to DS when he lost something to me or the BLM.
When I mentioned the Darkside thing ("Just a friendly reminder, Darkside helps with aggro") the response was "So does staying on my target".
This guy didn't mark things until after he'd lost aggro. Also, he lost mobs to both me and the BLM when we were AoEing, and I didn't even use as much BfB as I usually would.
Still, aside from this, a pretty good run, from him and the group as a whole.

[ExKage]

Calling people bad for stunning when they are supposed to be stunning is ignorance. If you want to set up stun order before the fight have at it, but if it's not set up then deal with it....it's the entire group's fault.

When you know there is a SPECIFIC move that must be stunned, save stuns for that move. Your ignorance for move order is no less better.

[Lmcgyver]

Calling people bad for stunning when they are supposed to be stunning is ignorance. If you want to set up stun order before the fight have at it, but if it's not set up then deal with it....it's the entire group's fault.

I think the problem is more the fact that melee DPS are trying to push as much DPS as possible, and... hey, would you look at that, this oGCD stun move has damage on it! Let's use it whenever it's off cooldown! What's that? We need to be able to stun certain moves? BUT MUH DEEPS!

In all seriousness, I see far too many melee DPS spamming their stuns on cooldown to try and maximize damage, on enemies that really should only be stunned at certain times. Heck, even WAR and DRK are guilty of it at times.