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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    It's not in the live letter but in my experience SE doesn't usually tell us absolutely everything we're going to get in them. They usually leave a few surprises and other things we didn't expect to be seen when the patch notes go live, they also could end up making a news post about it during one of the weeks leading up to the patch itself. My advice is "wait and see but don't get your hopes up."
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    It is only part 1 so should be more stuff coming in part 2
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    Jimmy Le
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Man it's been so many years... I could have sworn they said something about a new egi with increased level cap... Where is ramuh egi.... Shiva egi.. Leviathan... Do we need to wait 5 more years for just these 3?
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  4. #14
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Wishful thinking here but 4.0 needs a complete overhaul on SMN pets in the game because it obviously isn't working. The original concept of one melee one range didn't work because DPS is DPS in this game regards of source. No elemental weakness means no requirement of different magic types. As it stands, MCH has better pet choices then SMN.
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  5. #15
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    Bathu'a Silver'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I don't think that's very likely. That content is for all players, not just SMN. Having rewards that are only usable on SMN is about the same as if you being able to do PotD on any class but being able to ONLY bring PLD weapons out, no other at all
    If SE did that, they'd really kick most of their playerbase for doing something with a reward only a few can actually use.
    Monk kettle fists were able to be done by anyone. No other weapons available just housing items

    Edit: Well... done by anyone with a relic zeta
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    Last edited by alsims2007; 08-31-2016 at 02:17 AM.

  6. #16
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    Raja Vamberaux
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Why do people want egi glamours anyways? It won't affect gameplay at all and the egis look fine as-is... I'd rather them spend development on something else thanks
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  7. #17
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Why do people want egi glamours anyways? It won't affect gameplay at all and the egis look fine as-is... I'd rather them spend development on something else thanks
    Let me take a crack at it:

    1) Because there are 6 "vanilla" primals encountered in the ARR story, most that are Final Fantasy (and summonable in FFXI) staples for past Summoners. Yet up until now we only have 3.
    2) This rendition of Summoner thus far has the fewest "summons" in the series. Easily less than half of all other renditions. Players are justified to expect something more eventually.
    3) Because the devs stated at one point that Summoners would be getting new egis in HW then backpedaled when they found out balancing new pets would take too much work. They then claimed instead the remaining/new egis would just be glamoured over the old ones.
    4) New egis(glamour) not affecting gameplay is the whole point of reskinning them; the devs didn't want to make brand-new ones that would upset balance/be useless.
    5) "Egis looking fine as is" can be (and has been) debated in another thread altogether. This is less about how our current ones look and more about when are SMNs getting at the very least, the other 3 original elemental primal egis? (Personally, I also think they look fine)
    6) Carbuncles already exist with in-game models and abilities. They appear to be the 1st batch of egi glamour (unless the devs plan to surprise us), which begs to question as to why did it take so long to make something that already exists in-game to be worked-in as an extra feature for SMNs?

    IMO depending on what part of the development team is responsible for egi glamours (I feel like it may be the same people who design the minions), I'd like to know what is more pressing than "catching up" this installation of Summoner to the standards of previous installments? And don't come after me with "lore" when we have been told "it's coming," and until then we're only told in-game that we can't handle new egis right now (or even resummon Carbuncle as a SMN) when it can and will be easily retconned.
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    Last edited by Cidel; 08-31-2016 at 09:01 AM.

  8. #18
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Why do people want egi glamours anyways? It won't affect gameplay at all and the egis look fine as-is... I'd rather them spend development on something else thanks
    It's more for nostalgia purposes. Job rebalance might take place in 4.0 so don't get me wrong I'd love to see adjustments to the actual abilities for the egi's, or if the team can help out with other content that'd great.

    At the same time I'll admit I was more about the job / class when I was able to summon Carbuncle over Garuda-egi. I took so many pictures in a hooded robe with a book and carbuncle out and our adventure. A lot of posts have been more about the egi and how they look compared to their actual functions. I've seen some pretty nice talks about summoner and their abilities / suggested improvements, but no where near the level of detail someone has put into the "make it look pretty" threads.

    It has taken them a while, but to understand exactly why? I don't think anyone wants the actual answer, though it would come down to in the Rubik's Cube of project management this was not one of the colors and was put to the side for next time. Though it might take little time to do it, that's not the only factor that comes in. One team doing something could bottleneck others. Or time..contractors..who is doing what and their abilities..money money money..guy that doesn't know what's going on saying no due to good or bad advice..it's all out there.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 08-31-2016 at 10:40 PM.

  9. #19
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux View Post
    Why do people want egi glamours anyways? It won't affect gameplay at all and the egis look fine as-is... I'd rather them spend development on something else thanks
    Totally agree in that most summoners wanted new pets.... we didn't get it because SE admitted they didn't know how to add new ones.
    Then a year ago they mention pet glamour as a consolation prize...
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 09-01-2016 at 05:14 AM.

  10. #20
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    Valenth Guiran
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    Lich
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Boterote View Post
    Man it's been so many years... I could have sworn they said something about a new egi with increased level cap... Where is ramuh egi.... Shiva egi.. Leviathan... Do we need to wait 5 more years for just these 3?
    IIRC, didn't they explain in the SMN HW class-quests why summoning those proved difficult or impossible? I did lv SMN, but it's not my favorite class and it's been a while ago (read: I'm not terribly invested in it ^^; )
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