[NA] Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It (Hyper): COMPLETE

[Reinheart]

Grats!

JP side got some person crying asking for hint for strategy and people telling him/her to at least try different stuff out but the person still complaining so... I linked this thread and OP's images... Hope that will keep him/her quite for a while lol

[Xellos2099]

I heard the ifrit loot is screw up where it is auto loot to a player inventory instead of the loot list... is it true?

[Kasty]

I guess it's true as they said that 2 player without the job has the items now, if it werent like that as it is a LS they will have given it to party member that at leat have the job (or at the very least want to up that job)

[Keftenk]

If that's true, the fight just became less appealing >_> I wonder what SE's thought process is doing it that way (if it's true)...

[Zdenka]

Well tbh we are mostly stuck in having everyone live the Hellfire transition point (we can get 4th nail down to 35% before Hellfire... so a little more DPS and we can avoid it all together right?)

Ppl missing Sentinel and such has messed up any real serious attempts at the end of the fight.

Considering the fact that currently atk doesn't seem to affect weaponskills much or at all the ifrit dps weapons are better than putting materia into crafting weapons.

This is... untrue.

1.18 gear: Blindside + RS2 + Fer2 = 670-700 top end Doomspikes, ~350 low end (2000%-2500% no buffs)
1.19 gear 0 materia: Same buffs = 760 top end Doomspikes, ~375 low end
1.19 Materia gear (50 atk, 9 str, 9 dex) = 870 top end Doomspikes, ~450 low end.

1 attack is roughly giving 2 damage on doomspikes average, if the materia you socket on body gives +ATK to crits instead of crit rate (don't know... don't have one yet), and you dual socket ATK to gloves, weapon, and dual socket that +Crit Attack to chest you'll be seeing top end Doomspikes of 1100 damage, which is nearly double what a 1.18 geared LNC can do and 1.5x what you do with no materia socketed.


What attack doesn't seem to be affecting is normal hits on Ifrit. Murderous Intent seems to be the best way of increasing damage done during that time, too bad it has a long CD.

[Penguin]

Well tbh we are mostly stuck in having everyone live the Hellfire transition point (we can get 4th nail down to 35% before Hellfire... so a little more DPS and we can avoid it all together right?)

Ppl missing Sentinel and such has messed up any real serious attempts at the end of the fight.




This is... untrue.

1.18 gear: Blindside + RS2 + Fer2 = 670-700 top end Doomspikes, ~350 low end (2000%-2500% no buffs)
1.19 gear 0 materia: Same buffs = 760 top end Doomspikes, ~375 low end
1.19 Materia gear (50 atk, 9 str, 9 dex) = 870 top end Doomspikes, ~450 low end.

1 attack is roughly giving 2 damage on doomspikes average, if the materia you socket on body gives +ATK to crits instead of crit rate (don't know... don't have one yet), and you dual socket ATK to gloves, weapon, and dual socket that +Crit Attack to chest you'll be seeing top end Doomspikes of 1100 damage, which is nearly double what a 1.18 geared LNC can do and 1.5x what you do with no materia socketed.


What attack doesn't seem to be affecting is normal hits on Ifrit. Murderous Intent seems to be the best way of increasing damage done during that time, too bad it has a long CD.

NQ shepard's pie for example gives me 69 attack and if your numbers were correct that would mean using shepard's pies would increase my doomspike damage by 138 points of damage, my highest doomspike without a pie is 820 damage and my highest with a pie is 832 damage.

If attack effected weaponskills in the way you say i should be seeing close to 1k with +1 shepard's pie and using my hart guisarme that has +28 attack in it and yet i haven't.

If someone can provide 100% proof of your claims i would be happy to accept them but from personal testing if it does give any extra damage to weaponskills at all the increase is extremely minimal.

Edit: It could also be that food buffs aren't providing the same buff to weaponskill damage that attack on armor/weapons do which is entirely possible, if that is the case than a 2/3 materia'd +2/3 hart guisarme will probably be higher damage than the ifrit lance.

I will try to test it when i start getting a decent amount of attack materia but sadly so far i have been super unlucky with materia and haven't had too much time to spirit bond between sleep and ifrit attempts.

[Xellos2099]

I guess it's true as they said that 2 player without the job has the items now, if it werent like that as it is a LS they will have given it to party member that at leat have the job (or at the very least want to up that job)

Seriosuly...? Didn't SE made the chest system perfect in the Darkhold where it is given 5 minute time to decide who get what. The new beastman stronghold get the same auto loot retard system as well.

[Keftenk]

Peng, since you just posted. Items looted go directly to peoples inventory? 100% confirmed? I need to decide to rage or not lol

[Penguin]

Peng, since you just posted. Items looted go directly to peoples inventory? 100% confirmed? I need to decide to rage or not lol

Confirmed.

1 chest per person.

Cant trade the items you get.

Weapons you get are random, the class you kill it on doesn't affect what weapon drops so you can kill it on MRD and get the THM weapon drop.

[Sigmakan]

Peng, have you tested how +STR impacts WS?

Trying to decide if i want to put +attack or +STR on these gloves . . .