Armor repairing, what do you think about it?

[Lusavari]

Personally, I look for profit. Simple business practice at a retailer, you pay a 50% markup from what the retailer actually paid for the game. Let's say you bought FFXIV at EB Games for $50. They paid around $34 for that game. 50% markup brings it to $51, rounded down to 49.99 for classic J.C. Penny psychological sale technique. You're not gonna get it for the price they paid for it until they want it off their shelves. They wanna make profit off it because they need to pay for payroll, electricity, rent, and so on.

As a crafter, I can't just simply level off Leves. It's just to slow. I have to invest in mats for other endeavors. So I have to make money. If I'm breaking even, then I'm not progressing or getting better. Which in the long run hurts you, as even though I like to make items for you at a reasonable price, I won't be able to get up to the higher levels to compete, which means just a few people are at the higher levels, and can charge a premium for gear. That's how the crafting system works. It's capitalism.

[Lissandra]

I never did mind the repairing system. It's a lot better now though since we don't have to repair as often.

[Lusavari]

Barter is fine, but if you fail the attempt, it really doesn't help you much in the end. Which makes me less likely to attempt. 1 fail = set back.

[Atomsk]

honestly you guys don't fully get what I am saying. And I never said free. You guys don't understand what A barter system is.
Money isn't the only payment espcially back in the actual time the game is based off of. PPl used barter system of giving things of equal value.
Like 2 pigs for a cow etc. I find it pointless and silly to use modern analogies in a high fantasy themed game where extrage of Items can take place.

free is no payment. Mats again are a form of that. Since I'm resupplying you of stuff My repair will use. That is again fair in my eyes. Because this is game is not modern day earth. Where money is the only form of payment.

You ignore the time and effort, as well as overall effort to get to that point to where we CAN repair the gear. You may think it is a barter, but you're just cheap.

[TheVedis]

honestly you guys don't fully get what I am saying. And I never said free. You guys don't understand what A barter system is.
Money isn't the only payment espcially back in the actual time the game is based off of. PPl used barter system of giving things of equal value.
Like 2 pigs for a cow etc. I find it pointless and silly to use modern analogies in a high fantasy themed game where extrage of Items can take place.

free is no payment. Mats again are a form of that. Since I'm resupplying you of stuff My repair will use. That is again fair in my eyes. Because this is game is not modern day earth. Where money is the only form of payment.

ah, but in the eyes of the crafter, you are asking for it for free, thats the point
the time it takes us to do said repair, and the fact that we took the effort to level, and you didnt, means that you pay a fee to us to repair it, granted, if you are providing the material, that fee will be rather small, but offering no tip, is still a major insult.
and as ive stated before, most of the time, a crafter wont touch it if it doesnt have gil attached to it. or the fact that if they dont have that material to begin with, you offering it up doesnt help them to repair it at all.


by those same standards that you put forth, i must now ask that you provide me all the mats i need to level my crafts, since thats your job, since it will allow me to repair you later it should be a fair trade right?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

better thing.... its a flipping video game. Not something to take seriously. You guys are kinda taking it too seriously in your demsnds as well. The npc was put in for those who needed repairs as there wasn't anyone to do it till crafters lvled up. Whm in ffxi where not olbigated to raise party members but it was still their role in a party.

How about you take a moment to actually think about what I said instead of being high and mighty about it in you taking a video game to seriously.

Exchanging matieral infact can be payment for repairs. I'm asking you to do a service which is your role in the game. Repairing gear is an ability of crafters, no matter what yall say.

You use materials on my repair and I resupplie you with all materials used. And tips are not infact payment. Tips are not an obligated fee. If you guys want to charge a fee then call it a fee not a tip. And I'm pretty sure crafters do get sp from repairs not a ton and there are sp caps.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Sorry but I'm also instulted by the fact you guys assume its free. Since you don't get the barter system And the time and effort is a failed beyond failed argument. Sorry you played the game the way you wanted don't punish me for your choice. I never ask for stuff for free. But I do feel alternatives to gil are ok. If its end all be all then say you only take gil and not mats. But payment is payment. Just cuz its not gil don;t mean it don;t have value. I spent time hunting for mats to get stuff crafted in ffxi. No crafter asked for gil on top of what I gave them.

Sorry you guys don't see it as payment but it is infact payment.
But then afain why is this even an issue, this isn't real life : / its a video game. No need to be serious.

[TheVedis]

ved sorry but the "it took me x time to get to x level" don;t fly with me.

and neither does "you can do it therefore you should"

if you want something, wether its in a game, or real life, you gotta pay what its worth

expecting hand outs just isnt gonna cut it


also as far as SP is concerned, yes we get SP....when the item we are repairing is higher level then us, or at least close in level, repair anything else, and we get nothing almost, and guess what happens if the item is higher level? we fail at repairs a bunch!

[Atomsk]

ved sorry but the "it took me x time to get to x level" don;t fly with me.

have you actually leveled any class above 30 yet?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

by those same standards that you put forth, i must now ask that you provide me all the mats i need to level my crafts, since thats your job, since it will allow me to repair you later it should be a fair trade right?

actually I would do that since I do plan on leveling my gathering class. I'm that tupe of person. I never look for profit on such stuff. I don;t see a point. If a crafter needs it. I give it to them. That is just the type of person I am.