Palace of the dead and matched parties

[Antonio_Xul]

I just saw your video. My condolences.

It's actually why I like Palace of the Dead. It's a game of chance. You win some, you lose some. It's an instance that's always different and you have to think accordingly. I save my potions and keep a Phoenix Down in my inventory to help when things go bad. It's not like a raid or regular dungeon where you have to memorize mechanics. It's all about randomness. It may be just a bunch of mobs, but it's not as easy as it looks. It's why it's my favorite content.

[Kalinas]

Be nice if we could swap jobs like in frontlines while in PotD

[Millen1]

It would be nice if they used the normal 1 tank, 2dps and a healer for potd. I have never tried myself but heard from other FC members of getting very random parties that don't always work very well. I have done pre made parties every time, 1 or 2 tanks, 1 or 2 dps and always a healer. Using this party format we have never failed to hit level 50 and clear. The 1 tank/dps can be switched out, though usually going as the healer I am not a fan of no tanks or no dps. Need at least one of each and I could careless what the 4th person is. We also use ts for every run and that helps a lot an keeps a fast pace every run. Down side to doing this, you need 4 ppl to have 2 hours on hand to do this. It seems like doing only half a run makes it harder to get the same ppl together to finish again. Plus more than 2 save slots would be nice.

[Vilhem]

It's actually why I like Palace of the Dead. It's a game of chance. You win some, you lose some. It's an instance that's always different and you have to think accordingly. I save my potions and keep a Phoenix Down in my inventory to help when things go bad. It's not like a raid or regular dungeon where you have to memorize mechanics. It's all about randomness. It may be just a bunch of mobs, but it's not as easy as it looks. It's why it's my favorite content.

I live in Palace of the Dead, and I agree its all about the randomness. That's the challenge. Gotta think and be aware of your surroundings. It's not just another mindless dungeon grind like expert roulette. I've had plenty parties with no healer, and while its not as easy, it can be done if all of you play it safe. Use potions during combat instead of inbetween, pull one mob at a time, ninja sneak certain coffers etc.

Palace is currently my favorite content because of this :3

[Game_Over]

The way it is now forces players to team up and think, actually use their class abilities (such as binds, stuns,) and potions to save themselves, rather than a tank pulling everything, the dps beating them up and the healer keeping health up - if you want that, go and play literally every single other instance in this game. I get it, it's frustrating sometimes when you spawn a mimic and stand on a luring trap - but that's the game. People wanted something different and here it is.

While I can agree that part of the point of the dungeon is that it mixes things up, with 3 healers it is just boring [and often slow]. Sure I have to watch the timer, but I might as well duo with my hubby in that case, because on 2 smn we make the same time. Not everyone that comes in PotD is experienced with their class at later levels, so while this may add to the challenge it really isn't mixing anything up, it's just adding the potential for a wipe/waste of time. I'm not saying you can't be successful with any party, and yes that is part of the fun. I've had all dps parties that got a floor with no items enchantment, auto-heal disabled, and had no serenities, and we still succeeded. I mentioned priority matching not as a guarantee to get the regular boring party make up, but if there are 100 people queuing, 20 of which are healers, not all of the healers will end up in the same party/ies. It doesn't have to be the same matching system we have for other duties, because I agree that would be boring, but when I enter a party with 2 other healers and I'm on one myself, my feeling isn't "all right, a challenge!" it's "ugh, I'm in for a long haul". On another point, I'm not saying healers can't dps, but their dps in PotD seems to be lower than it is normally (probably due to aetherpool system). Honestly, I'd rather enter a party with all dps than all healers, but not everyone may feel that way.

Edit: To clarify what I mean by "priority matching", the system would work the same way it does now, but if there are a very large amount of a role (for example healers) then it will attempt to spread them more thin throughout the parties queuing. As ADVSS mentions below, there isn't much issue with an all dps party [usually], the only real issue is too many healers in the same party.

[ADVSS]

honestly before heavensward hit, my friends and i would go in normal dungeons with 4 tanks, or 4 dps or whatever make up. This dungeon is great, and can suck if say you got some derpy deeps who cause a run to fail, but in my experience a 4 dps party pulling one mob at a time, can usually beat times of a normal party, or one with a tank. add a healer, and like pvp/frontlines, its usually a win, or a better situation. But as far as the dungeon goes, its totally(and brutally easier) to do with all dps as long as the party is cautious and smart.

[Seku]

It would be nice if they used the normal 1 tank, 2dps and a healer for potd. I have never tried myself but heard from other FC members of getting very random parties that don't always work very well.

The only party that doesn't work very well is the one you don't work very well in. PoTD has been soloed by quite a few players now, meaning that even with horrible party members it's still possible to make it through by yourself.

[Seoulstar]

not gonna use the nin ability to dodge all combat? it helps too

If I recall correctly. They changed that, you don't dodge anything anymore. Just take less damage.

[Mirakumi]

If I recall correctly. They changed that, you don't dodge anything anymore. Just take less damage.

Nah, I use it all the time in PoD. It's pretty dodgey ;p

[Centershock]

Nah, I use it all the time in PoD. It's pretty dodgey ;p

Are you talking about Shade Shift? Because that used to be an attack called Perfect Dodge. This change was made back in Patch 2.4