Yoshida' stance on PL and why it is less than ideal.

[ObeiKinstar]

I wanted to add, that in this case actions also speak as loud as words. So if Yoshida means something else, that can not really be seen in the game right now. It's 1:1 ratio and that makes me worried that what I think he means is exactly what he means.

True, he did say more of the future of what is in store for FFXIV will be announced at the next live letter, so I guess it's wait till then for more info on this, unless a dev chimes in

[Naqaj]

Betel, are you sure you're not reading a bit too much between the lines there?

[Vahzl]

My point is that on the front page, there are 3 threads already having discussed this matter over and over. It doesn't need to be covered again. Facetious responses such as "I see no thread about my exact issue so therefore I will make as many as I like" are the responses of forum spammers.

[Betelgeuzah]

Betel, are you sure you're not reading a bit too much between the lines there?

Perhaps, but can you say my analysis doesn't hold true in-game right now?

Facetious responses such as "I see no thread about my exact issue so therefore I will make as many as I like" are the responses of forum spammers.

Do you see my OP as spam? That is unfortunate, but there's probably nothing I can do to change that.

The issue I have with the other threads is that they don't go enough into specifics, especially the OP's. It's easy to disregard someone when he offers no valid criticism to justify his or her opinion, even if it has a lot of Likes. For Yoshida it then may just be another "can't please everyone" situation even though there are clear problems in the way he thinks unrelated to our subjective stance on this.

[ObeiKinstar]

My point is that on the front page, there are 3 threads already having discussed this matter over and over. It doesn't need to be covered again. Facetious responses such as "I see no thread about my exact issue so therefore I will make as many as I like" are the responses of forum spammers.

I understand your point, however please understand mine, if someone takes the time to write out a well written thread that makes valid points and raises valid questions then whats the problem? Trolls are gonna troll and spammers gonna spam, do you think a troll or spammer is gonna NOT do that because you post saying not to? I am only arguing this because I enjoy Betelgeuzah's threads because it doesn't feel like it was written by a twelve year old, weather I always agree with him or not. So I understand your point, if this was a one line thread saying "pl is dumb" I would be on-board with you.

[EmeraldHill]

You could of seen his argument in the current threads.

[AriaHawksong]

The problem I foresee with the state of leveling at the moment, especially the ones that PL their entire way to cap, is their inability to play their class properly. The problem pre-patch was the lack of groups in the first place. People were forced to solo their way many a time, unless they had enough friends to form some sort of static.

Pre-patch, linkshells are finding it easier to just "Power level" their members than to find enough people to form a normal group. I still find it increasingly difficult to find a -normal- group in the 30s range on Gysahl, and without the ability to solo efficiently, I'm finding it harder to resist the offers my linkshell makes for powerleveling.

This may just be a counter-product to the fact that because PLing is available, people find it easier to do that. I can't say that i think powerleveling should be non-existant, but more that it should be toned down from what it is. I'd rather a system be implemented similar to the one in FFXI, where it brought you down within level range of your friends, than to allow such things to continue on. I fear more that newer people to the game are going to lose the ability to truely learn their class pre-50.

[Sephrick]

The problem with these anti-power-leveling posts is that they're a bit like chicken little. Power leveling is no where as rampant as these posts would seem to like to have anyone believe.

So far since the release of 1.19 I've been in seven parties. Each of those parties were properly built with all members within a five level range -- tank, two mages, yada yada. These parties were at a wide variety of levels too from the early 20s all the way to the 40s.

Power leveling is a non issue. And the rate at which a proper party can net exp is sure to draw more new players than it would drive away.

So what if Yoshi is okay with it? I'm glad. Once again it comes down to players having the power of choice. And as far as I've seen, players are choosing to play the game instead of afk it.

This thread and all the others decrying the ability to PL are mainly trolling. Just like everything else SE has done since 1.17. People freak out about it then by the next patch they realize it's not nearly as bad as they insisted it would be and move on to the next issue they can blow out of proportion.

[AriaHawksong]

The problem with these anti-power-leveling posts is that they're a bit like chicken little. Power leveling is no where as rampant as these posts would seem to like to have anyone believe.

So far since the release of 1.19 I've been in seven parties. Each of those parties were properly built with all members within a five level range -- tank, two mages, yada yada. These parties were at a wide variety of levels too from the early 20s all the way to the 40s.

I wish I had your luck on getting parties. My benefit fortunately was playing the game once before on Wutai, before moving recently to Gysahl. However i'm more sad that despite the rapid increase of players actually playing the game, I still find it just as difficult as before trying to get a party together. and Lacking the option to solo effectively doesn't necessarily sit well with me. At least then I wouldn't be sitting around in town twiddling my thumbs.... sure I can craft, but sometimes I want to just go out and kill things so I can do things with my higher leveled friends. :<

[Betelgeuzah]

This thread and all the others decrying the ability to PL are mainly trolling.

Great way to argue about an opinion you don't seem to agree with. "They don't agree with me? They're trolling."

This issue is nothing like anything else people have raised a fuss about. People will do what is most efficient if they have the tools to do so- this isn't some chicken little rambling, there is more than enough evidence of this in any MMO of your choosing. If PLing is the way of least resistance, and people have access to said method, that is what they will be doing. People don't go out of their way to make things harder for themselves. They only tend to do that if they have no other option.

The patch is still in early stages- it'll take a while for everyone to catch up to what is the name of the game.