Let us obtain Hermes' Shoes, Garlond Goggles, Asuran Armguards and other 1.0 items

[Istaru]

So if the acquisition cost remains the same there is no problem?
If not your assertion that there is a problem is false

Lose faith?
"Exclusive" event items have already been put on the mog station, there is precedent for "your" "exclusive" items to go there as well.

Even back in XI, previous event items could be gained in subsequent years. Not sure anyone should consider them to be exclusive.

I will repeat this:

The only reason I have EVER given them $50 for a soundtrack, art book, plushie, whatever, was the exclusivity of the item attached to it. Not exclusive and available at any time? Screw you, I'll wait for a sale instead thank you very much.

If you want to say that makes me selfish, then fine, I'm selfish. I stand by my position. Because they told everyone, that paying the full price for a limited run item was the only way to get the item, I paid more than I would have if they did not make that claim.

On a separate note...
I saw your edit readon on this post. Your English is not bad at all, don't worry.

Now back to arguing lol

[Istaru]

In-game event items have been put into the CS and not everyone is happy about it. If they ever touch paid exclusives, there would be a poo storm of epic proportions (rightfully so).

I think the unhappiness over the event items in the mog station is that historically, SE has made previous rewards ingame when the next event comes out. Making them cash only is the difference now.

[Skivvy]

I think the unhappiness over the event items in the mog station is that historically, SE has made previous rewards ingame when the next event comes out. Making them cash only is the difference now.

Aye, I would agree with that! I see that my comment was not really to point now D:

[Genaxx]

You'll be able to get a Dalamud horn next time they crash a meteor into the game and reboot it. Just wait for that.

Sad thing is, that sounds plausible.

I still have my garlond goggles. Useless now since they only work for level 10 and below. These were pre-order / collectors etc bonuses. They shouldn't be re-added.

[Ozz]

1.0 exclusive items should remain just that, don't cry here if you couldn't support the game in its infancy.

[Niwashi]

The only reason I have EVER given them $50 for a soundtrack, art book, plushie, whatever, was the exclusivity of the item attached to it. Not exclusive and available at any time? Screw you, I'll wait for a sale instead thank you very much.

What's wrong with the exclusivity that comes just from having paid $50 for a soundtrack (or whatever), which not everyone will do? Why should someone else who also pays $50 for a soundtrack not get what you got with it, just because they paid that same price later? I'm in favor of like-for-like repeating of item availability. If it used to be available with purchase of an item, then it should still be available with purchase of that (or an equivalent) item. Now, it would certainly be an insult to simply start giving away stuff that other people had paid for, but that doesn't mean it has to be pulled from availability altogether.

I have a carbuncle minion that I got together with purchase of a plushie. I see no reason why they should quit offering that, nor have they. As long as there are customers willing to buy it, they should continue selling that plushie/minion combo. It's exclusive enough just by the fact that not many do buy it. (They were at least at the time having trouble getting production of the plushies to keep up with demand, but that was neither a deliberate nor desirable limitation. They're supposed to be available to anyone who will order one.)

[Istaru]

What's wrong with the exclusivity that comes just from having paid $50 for a soundtrack (or whatever), which not everyone will do? Why should someone else who also pays $50 for a soundtrack not get what you got with it, just because they paid that same price later? I'm in favor of like-for-like repeating of item availability. If it used to be available with purchase of an item, then it should still be available with purchase of that (or an equivalent) item. Now, it would certainly be an insult to simply start giving away stuff that other people had paid for, but that doesn't mean it has to be pulled from availability altogether.

I have a carbuncle minion that I got together with purchase of a plushie. I see no reason why they should quit offering that, nor have they. As long as there are customers willing to buy it, they should continue selling that plushie/minion combo. It's exclusive enough just by the fact that not many do buy it. (They were at least at the time having trouble getting production of the plushies to keep up with demand, but that was neither a deliberate nor desirable limitation. They're supposed to be available to anyone who will order one.)

Thinking about it, the plushie minions may not be sold as exclusives. If they aren't exclusive then I made a mistake including them and apologize for the mistake.

To be honest, my addition of them as an example was really outside the scope of the original request. They were asking for 1.0 exclusives to be added to which I still say no. I added them since Yoshida himself said that the exclusive soundtrack minions will not go to the cash shop.

[Rin_Sato]

Even back in XI, previous event items could be gained in subsequent years. Not sure anyone should consider them to be exclusive.

I will repeat this:

The only reason I have EVER given them $50 for a soundtrack, art book, plushie, whatever, was the exclusivity of the item attached to it. Not exclusive and available at any time? Screw you, I'll wait for a sale instead thank you very much.

If you want to say that makes me selfish, then fine, I'm selfish. I stand by my position. Because they told everyone, that paying the full price for a limited run item was the only way to get the item, I paid more than I would have if they did not make that claim.

On a separate note...
I saw your edit readon on this post. Your English is not bad at all, don't worry.

Now back to arguing lol

And if I said I was fine with having the bonus item from the plush that costs about 100 dollars with shipping being up for 10 dollars on mog station, does that somehow make anything I have said more valid, if I have bought said plush?
What if I have spent thousands or tens of thousands of dollars(obviously I have not, this is for the sake of argument), do you believe my argument holds more, or the same weight?
If it does not hold more weight, then what point is there in saying "I paid (more than you) for it" to keep others from buying it for less, or even the same?
About sales, isn't that the rational thing to do?
If you do not feel you have gotten your moneys worth after seeing an item on sale, that's the normal feeling you would expect from losing out on any discount, similar to buyers remorse.
Would you react the same way in other situations, if an item is on sale for some (limited) amount of time for a regular price at one place, but was then made cheaper at another place, at another time?
I don't think this is healthy behaviour, as I do not see people going out of their way to protest about sales outside of the game, i.e. real life.

I have several limited edition items that probably amount to just over a thousand dollars, almost all of which turned out to be not too limited, which of course isn't too fun, but I would not go out of my way to make someone less happy, or prevent them from being happier just to satisfy my ego(unless they are into that), in fact, if all of my collection were made non-limited, would that not be better for everyone?
The supply not limited, replacements readily available if needed, I would even have the option of getting it later if I was in a tight spot financially.
Do you truly think it is better for you, and for everyone else, that only you should be allowed to have it, because of artificially limited supply?

[Istaru]

And if I said I was fine with having the bonus item from the plush that costs about 100 dollars with shipping being up for 10 dollars on mog station, does that somehow make anything I have said more valid, if I have bought said plush?
What if I have spent thousands or tens of thousands of dollars(obviously I have not, this is for the sake of argument), do you believe my argument holds more, or the same weight?
If it does not hold more weight, then what point is there in saying "I paid (more than you) for it" to keep others from buying it for less, or even the same?
About sales, isn't that the rational thing to do?
If you do not feel you have gotten your moneys worth after seeing an item on sale, that's the normal feeling you would expect from losing out on any discount, similar to buyers remorse.
Would you react the same way in other situations, if an item is on sale for some (limited) amount of time for a regular price at one place, but was then made cheaper at another place, at another time?
I don't think this is healthy behaviour, as I do not see people going out of their way to protest about sales outside of the game, i.e. real life.

I have several limited edition items that probably amount to just over a thousand dollars, almost all of which turned out to be not too limited, which of course isn't too fun, but I would not go out of my way to make someone less happy just to satisfy my ego.(unless they are into that)
Do you truly think it is better for you, and for everyone else, that only you should be allowed to have it, because of artificially limited supply?

I am going to try and answer this in one go, may not quite accomplish it, but I am going to try just the same.

If you or anyone, bought an item for a premium, because you were told that it was limited edition, exclusive or whatever, and the person or company selling it, turns around and sells an infinite number of them, you should be mad as hell.

I will repeat that, mad as hell.

Not mad at anyone that purchased the unlimited item, or asked for it, but at the company that in essence, stole from you.

1) They coerced you into giving them something of value, your money, for something of perceived equal value.
2) Usually with limited run items, the expectation that they will not create more of that item,.
3) If the limited thing you bought becomes more popular, an increase in the value of your item.

To try and answer you concisely as I can for the FFXIV 1.0 situation:

I have no problems with seasonal event items being given freely to anyone and everyone that wants them, 1.0 or not. Event items, all the way back to 2003 with FFXI have always been obtainable in subsequent events, I am ok that they continue that trend.

I am against SE making any "exclusive" items available after their period of initial redemption.

If SE went back on their word, I would be mad with SE for lying to me and deceiving me. In the end, telling me that an item is exclusive and will never come back and then giving it to everyone, is a lie, no matter how you try to justify it. It is fraud.

In the end, it would affect my decisions to purchase so called "exclusives" ever again from them. I think it would affect how other people would act as well. There would be some loss of revenue for SE as a whole and that would not be good for anyone.

On a separate note:
Again, I would not be upset with anyone who purchased it. It is not their fault that SE deceived and lied to the people who bought goods from them. It would be SE's fault.

One other note:
There are some exclusive items that I do not have. I would never ask SE to give me a means to obtain the few items I am missing. They were offered as exclusive, I did not do what was required to obtain them. I accept that I will not gain those items, ever.

[Rin_Sato]

I am going to try and answer this in one go, may not quite accomplish it, but I am going to try just the same.

If you or anyone, bought an item for a premium, because you were told that it was limited edition, exclusive or whatever, and the person or company selling it, turns around and sells an infinite number of them, you should be mad as hell.

I will repeat that, mad as hell.

What if the reason I bought it wasn't that it was limited and not the ability to say I own a rare item but that I wanted the item itself?

Not mad at anyone that purchased the unlimited item, or asked for it, but at the company that in essence, stole from you.

1) They coerced you into giving them something of value, your money, for something of perceived equal value.
2) Usually with limited run items, the expectation that they will not create more of that item,.
3) If the limited thing you bought becomes more popular, an increase in the value of your item.

Do you complain about christmas drink being 1 dollar cheaper in summer when you thought it was only on sale during winter and about how the supermarket essentially stole from you?
How they coerced you into giving them money for something you thought was an equal trade?
Maybe it doesn't matter the first time, it's just 1 dollar, but how about 50 christmases in?
What if you bought 50 on the first christmas, would that make it worse, since you couldn't have known?
Would you demand you be refunded 50 dollars?

In the end, it would affect my decisions to purchase so called "exclusives" ever again from them. I think it would affect how other people would act as well. There would be some loss of revenue for SE as a whole and that would not be good for anyone.

Aahahaaha loss of revenue?
You mean the minority of players who do have those items compared to the majority who don't?
The minority OF a minority who would stop buying because they don't have "exclusive" items, affecting their sales decisions?
Absolutely, clearly, it's a loss to sell to 100% of your customers instead of just the ones who visited your store that one time a few years ago!
In my eyes, revenue-wise, it would be a good idea to make them available in exchange for money, since nobody loses anything, and they only gain money from it. If you are using a certain micro-transaction master as a guideline for your thinking, remember that those items are tradeable, these are not.
And again, are you seriously telling me the only trait of the item you care about is its "exclusivity"?

There are some exclusive items that I do not have. I would never ask SE to give me a means to obtain the few items I am missing. They were offered as exclusive, I did not do what was required to obtain them. I accept that I will not gain those items, ever.

In my opinion, you should reconsider that attitude