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  1. #61
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    As an EU player coming from WoW i can tell ya that they are doing just fine.

    Blizzard have decided to keep all eu players in a separate forum, making them unable to participate in discussion with the devs. The few posts they recieve are copied from us forums. The one time i remember the blizzard team mentioning EU players was in their 2014 documentary. In this film they insulted eu players indirectly stating that they unable to provide feedback.


    Sorry for the wall of text/rant, just letting yall know, better to be partially ignored than full on neglected and eventually insulted.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Thank you, you said what I was trying to say Anyway I agree with this..preach on my friend <3
    yeah to bad it got taken off I guess the truth hurts.
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    At least when I played WoW from Vanilla through late BC, Blizzard did listen. It's just that their response time on feedback was horrendous and frequently missed the mark. I still remember the firestorm of criticism regarding end-game raiding in early BC. Did Blizzard eventually get around to addressing a lot of that criticism? Yea, they did. Did it take them years and sometimes multiple expansions? Yea.

    And judging from the conversations I've had with Blizzard employees their WoW team is a hot mess with high turnover, horrible leadership, and a lot of drama. Basically, it's a horrible working environment.

    As for SE, they obviously listen and they react pretty quickly. Just look at their knee jerk reaction to Diadem early on, the addition of items to Mogstation, the changes they've made to PvP in general, their nerfs to A6S, their changes to PotD, etc. I'd say with how Yoshida puts himself out there, it'd be pretty hard to not hear certain issues when they are voiced directly to your face. It helps that interviewers usually at least have a few questions mixed in with the soft balls that actually address real issues.

    They'd also probably listen more if the community did a better job of organizing and presenting their criticism in a productive manner.

    Also, as a community, with how crappy our behavior is at times, we don't exactly make their jobs any easier. Just look at Yoshida's recent response to removing GC restrictions from Frontlines. He's considering it but worries about the way we will abuse it. In some of the discussions regarding the interview, people are already proposing numerous ways to abuse the removal of GC restrictions. People might make some argument regarding human nature but sometimes it's not about what you can do but what you should do. If SE didn't have to deal with so much blow back from the exploitation of their systems, they might be more willing to just push changes out.
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    Last edited by Brian_; 08-02-2016 at 01:21 PM.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Once politics and nationalities start coming into play this thread went off the deep end.
    Well, it began on the first page. I don't really appreciate being told where I live and come from makes me entitled because of my race

    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    yeah to bad it got taken off I guess the truth hurts.
    lol what the..? someone reported it? Wow..>.> I guess that truly answers that then..:/
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    Last edited by Iromi; 08-02-2016 at 02:09 PM.

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    I'm going to say it's likely 2. They listen, but they listen to stuff that is irrelevant and not exactly necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacien View Post
    Also, it's painfully obvious that all Live Letter questions are picked long before, and the threads asking for questions are just an illusion making you think that players' voices matter.
    This... they give you the illusion of asking them, but they ignore the really important questions, such as bug fixes, broken systems (Looking at you, TT tournament) and things that are vital to the game's enjoyment. But they gloss over them, and respond about things like 'Hey why isn't there a wink emote in this game? MUH IMMERSION!" and it's like, yeah, that's great. We have a wink emote now... but we're still sitting here with a bunch of stuff that needs fixing but is being ignored because of things like this...
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    Last edited by ErryK; 08-02-2016 at 02:45 PM.



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    On a scale of 1 to 5. But which is positive or negative....

    So disregarding that.

    SE has a plan. A vision of the game. And they are continuously changing the game as all players reach out.
    At least 2 of my ideas. From what I found on the forums I was the original poster on have been implemented into the game.

    Also you just have to look at SE community reps posting on NA forums about ideas..
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    On a scale of 1 to 5. But which is positive or negative....

    So disregarding that.

    SE has a plan. A vision of the game. And they are continuously changing the game as all players reach out.
    At least 2 of my ideas. From what I found on the forums I was the original poster on have been implemented into the game.

    Also you just have to look at SE community reps posting on NA forums about ideas..
    I am very curious which ideas did they implement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Well, it began on the first page. I don't really appreciate being told where I live and come from makes me entitled because of my race



    lol what the..? someone reported it? Wow..>.> I guess that truly answers that then..:/
    Someone reported my response as well so lets not mince words, no one insulted anyone's race. I answered the question the OP asked and put in my opinion as was asked for about the video game we play. Others are entitled to different opinions so be it. I stayed on the subject, my response to the diatribe was reported as well which was short and sweet but I feel like it has zero place on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    yeah to bad it got taken off I guess the truth hurts.
    I was in no way hurt by your diatribe or took it to be the truth. I put in a response that was taken down as well. I simply wanted to stay on subject in relation to the video game.
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    I will go with 3. I think they listen but not as much as to JP players. Also they seem to be listening to us especially in unimportant matters like QoL, emotes, cash shop etc. while JP get more attention in things that actually matter.

    If people learned to use 1 thread for each topic it would greatly improve, but western community isn't the only side that is at fault.
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