My opinion on endgame gear progression : DRK i225, 4th month of subscription

[Exidrial]

Can't anybody read? o: I said times now what I want as a reward. Better Equipment.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Can't anybody read? o: I said times now what I want as a reward. Better Equipment.

You do get better equipment, the weapons are i245. and a 2nd I240 ring. and more than one i240 upgrade per week.

[Exidrial]

You do get better equipment, the weapons are i245. and a 2nd I240 ring. and more than one i240 upgrade per week.

But the gear you get from facerolling is not much worse.
Is the minimally better gear worth the time investment? For me no, not even remotely.

[Drkdays]

There's actually a pretty big gap between the stats of gear. Looking beyond what looks like a mere 5 or 10 ilv jump you'll see the stats take a big jump. 10 or more points sometimes. Also, the lore gear from ESO usually includes some undesirable stats like parry or accuracy or skill speed that isn't extremely helpful, while the top raid gear is usually designed to greatly improve your class.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

But the gear you get from facerolling is not much worse.
Is the minimally better gear worth the time investment? For me no, not even remotely.

So you dont want to raid because you want to raid, you want to because you want better gear to be a special snowflake?

[TiaHariberux3]

But its still better you will have it faster than most ppl. Why you want better gear anyways? If you clear the hardest content you can make your Best in Slot. Why would you need better gear if you have already the best and cleared what most ppl cant? You will never get the glamour etc. that raiders have and you know there is something called "fun" if you like challenges raid you can have fun and have a nice feeling after you killed those bosses and show off your glamour/mounts/minion. There is no need to increase the ilvl gap lets say raid gear would be atm ilvl 250 what would it change? a bit more dmg no one cares about in casual content and even yourself as raider doesnt care since you just want the boss down (which you obviously did after getting everything). The gear you get from "facerolling" is 10ilvl lower and alot of times not bis + weekly cap on midan/lore sure now you can upgrade it and have no lock outs except lore but thats months after the actual raid was released. Btw the casual 230 weapon you get after 7 weeks is so bad compared to the ilvl 245 alone cause of the weapon dmg and main stat. Raiders have fun and want glamour/achieve something/BiSgear and are the first and only one who get it they dont need need a 30 ilvl gap between casuals because no one cares outside of savage about your gear. You get 1 upgrade each week after raiders had there bis long time ago ofc you can even hunt now but the amount of hunts to get gear which isnt even bis is less fun and way to grindy.

[KitingGenbu]

To be honest, there's nothing that really sets "hardcore raid gear" apart from other gear, referring to set bonuses and equip effects. Its just randomized secondary stats. I know accuracy was pretty important in 2.X raiding but it does not seem to be the case in 3.X? I haven't bothered tbh but that's a shame if so. Anyway raid gear in this game really isn't worth the effort unless you like to min/max or stroke your own ego. There's nothing really objective better that motivates a large population to do it. More people will just settle for tome/24 man until the unlocks in the following patch. So yea, the ilvl in raiding gear needs a big boost and needs something extra to make more people wanting to do it otherwise less and less people will do it over all. Doing things for a challenge only lasts for so long till you get bored and either stop doing it or stop playing until the next patch.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Its more that 80% of the games population probably can barely handle nidhogg story's dps checks lol.

[Cakekizyy]

But the gear you get from facerolling is not much worse.
Is the minimally better gear worth the time investment? For me no, not even remotely.

Then don't do it. Problem solved.

[Rikku1987]

Well tbh IMO FFs only endgame is savage, which are 4 encounters. Dungeons and 24man raids are just facerolls, EX primals are the same.. once you've beat it (no bonus! o.o) ppl realize it's really easy. And thats pretty much it.

Clear all dungeons, ex primals and 24man raids +(alex normal modes) dont take that much time even if some ppl think so, whats left? Savage!
Savage is fun but good luck to find to a group (Raidfinder = good idea but not working properly. I've spent over 5 hours in it and nothing happend, even on a Tuesday) So you need a Static!
And with the need to have a static the real problems start, you need to find one and it needs to fit with your needs (people, time, days, etc.) and alot ppl dont want to be part in a static even...

What most ppl do:
1. Finish content (except savage), quit and wait for patch -> repeat, or
2. Finish content, login for (static-)raids, logout

There's alot of other stuff you can do, but grinding, crafting, RP etc etc i wouldn't call "END"-game.

My server is dead, it really is. 95% are offline in friendlist and fcs, when i ask others it's always the same on there fc and friendlist... looking on partyfinder all you see are statics looking for members, bird farms and crafters looking for work.

Personally i pretty much only login for static stuff and dont know if its worth the sub much longer.