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  1. #21
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    I didn't read every post, but the situation sounds similar to when i use garuda as a summoner. I usually try fo make sure the enemy is heavily dotted and low on health befire i use shockwave, that way the enemy should die either because of shockwave or ahortly after.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  2. #22
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    Felicia Vale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I didn't read every post, but the situation sounds similar to when i use garuda as a summoner. I usually try to make sure the enemy is heavily dotted and low on health before I use shockwave, that way the enemy should die either because of shockwave or shortly after.
    Why would you ever use shockwave though? It does less damage than Wind blade.

    Also as others have said already I think Fluid Aura is fine. A lot of mobs are immune to the pushback and if a mob isn't immune just use it when its low on health.
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  3. #23
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    Beato Ushiromiya
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    Its fine as it is honestly.
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  4. #24
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    Norg Kazham
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    No one has posted this yet?!?? Well this is how you properly use fluid aura... Throw your dots up, identify what target isn't being focused. Fluid aura that target. Swift cast repose. (sleep for you underutilizing whms out there)

    Same goes for MCH. Throw up your dots. Find the target not being focused. Lead shot, bind. The mob helplessly watches while you obliterate his friends.
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  5. #25
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by verandal View Post
    No one has posted this yet?!?? Well this is how you properly use fluid aura... Throw your dots up, identify what target isn't being focused. Fluid aura that target. Swift cast repose. (sleep for you underutilizing whms out there)

    Same goes for MCH. Throw up your dots. Find the target not being focused. Lead shot, bind. The mob helplessly watches while you obliterate his friends.
    That's fine early on, to help mitigate the squish tanks, but most people want a good amount of AOE damage done. q.q
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  6. #26
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    Quote Originally Posted by verandal View Post
    No one has posted this yet?!?? Well this is how you properly use fluid aura... Throw your dots up, identify what target isn't being focused. Fluid aura that target. Swift cast repose. (sleep for you underutilizing whms out there)

    Same goes for MCH. Throw up your dots. Find the target not being focused. Lead shot, bind. The mob helplessly watches while you obliterate his friends.
    Uh, no. Do not do this. You're not being helpful by kicking mobs out of AoE range and out of the range of the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by _slowpoke_ View Post
    Uh, no. Do not do this. You're not being helpful by kicking mobs out of AoE range and out of the range of the tank.
    In addition to this, Repose is a wasted GCD in 99,9% of the cases.
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  8. #28
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    What AOE? Normal level dungeoneering tanks don't pull more than one pack usually equaling three mobs. Black mages Fire II spam is barely better than fire Spam. Other AOE from TP dependent roles are a waste of TP with only three mobs. The dps gained with the mitigation I've provided outwighs the crappy AOE that will be being done.

    With only two mobs hitting the tank I usually never have to heal mid battle this way. Especially when the tank is properly using cool downs. This is even more effective when other dps know how to play their classes and throw their dots on all mobs. Including the one I push back. And sleep. They will continue to take that dot damage and will wake up around the time the 2nd mob is dying and with around 60-70% health.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by verandal View Post
    What AOE? Normal level dungeoneering tanks don't pull more than one pack usually equaling three mobs.
    Yes, and? A lot of jobs have AoE at relatively early levels that is more effective already at 3+ mobs, including two of the three tanks.

    Black mages Fire II spam is barely better than fire Spam.
    What.

    Other AOE from TP dependent roles are a waste of TP with only three mobs.
    Except they're not?

    The dps gained with the mitigation I've provided outwighs the crappy AOE that will be being done.
    I am getting the impression you don't even remotely know what you are talking about. Wasting a GCD on Repose is already a waste of time, damage, and MP.

    Again: do not do this. You are going to piss off the rest of your group and you are not doing anything useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  10. #30
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliciaTheSecond View Post
    Why would you ever use shockwave though? It does less damage than Wind blade.

    Also as others have said already I think Fluid Aura is fine. A lot of mobs are immune to the pushback and if a mob isn't immune just use it when its low on health.
    The same reason you use fluid aura, its an OGCD move to push out more dps.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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