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  1. #51
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Carbuncle
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I am not saying that the Japanese fan base is all polite and proper, but you always hear stories of people who transfer to a Japanese server and glow with how much better their DF runs are and the like.
    I've run with a matched party 4 times now, and I've never had this happen to me.
    Nor have I personally met anyone who experienced it.

    However, on the JP forums, there were a couple of people saying this happened to them.
    So apparently it does occur even on JP servers.
    (3)

  2. #52
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    With a few different reward for getting to threw floor 50. I don't understand why people cry and do this when they don't get what they want 1st time around.
    Now if you have all the rewards form going to 50 beside the weapon I could see it.

    But Ya I agree the fight needs to be changed and people need to be reported.

    Gladly I've made one trip to 50 so far and they talked about people leaving. If they didn't see one silver chest. we got a silver on 49 and we cleared the boss.
    (2)
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  3. #53
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    I've run with a matched party 4 times now, and I've never had this happen to me.
    Nor have I personally met anyone who experienced it.

    However, on the JP forums, there were a couple of people saying this happened to them.
    So apparently it does occur even on JP servers.
    I don't doubt it, but is it as often as it is on NA servers?
    (1)

  4. #54
    Player
    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I don't doubt it, but is it as often as it is on NA servers?
    That, I don't know. I don't know how often it happens on NA servers.
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  5. #55
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    It should stop soon once they add guaranteed +1 upgrades for clearing floor 50.
    That won't be enough. If people get no upgrades from 41-49 they're still going to wipe the run/afk/ask for kick/whatever anyway because if they retry they might get upgrades PLUS the guaranteed upgrade at 50. They won't settle for just that guaranteed one, given how many you need in total.

    They will need to try a little harder than that.

    Another thing they could try doing is make the exits allow you another option to leave the dungeon but without saving your progress and therefore forfeiting your exp/tomes/potsherd rewards as if you had just quit the instance (which is something you can already do by just not clicking the exit, but most people don't seem to know that). At least this way, the people who do not wish to complete their run might actually be inclined to finish it for the sake of the people that do want to complete it, knowing that they don't have to reset back to floor 1. It won't actually fix the insane RNG factor involved with upgrades but at least it will hopefully get some people to stop resorting to underhanded methods to not complete the run.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 07-24-2016 at 01:43 AM.

  6. #56
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    That won't be enough. If people get no upgrades from 41-49 they're still going to wipe the run/afk/ask for kick/whatever anyway because then they might get upgrades PLUS the guaranteed upgrade at 50. They won't settle for just that guaranteed one.

    They will need to try a little harder than that.
    Agreed
    Where there's a chance to get more, players will fight against the rng to get it.
    (1)

  7. #57
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Last night I had the unfortunate experience of having to do floors 41-49 4 times in a row due to bad luck wasting a total of 1+ hr.

    1st time: No silver chest dropped and wiped at 49, was it on purpose? I don't know

    2nd: I finally got 30/30, but 1 person dropped at floor 49, thus leaving only 3 members. Rather than going to the final room the group decided to explore. Triggered at trap that spawned monsters and wiped.

    3rd: Joined in progress @ floor 49 with 30+ min remain ... only 1 person refused to proceed further by not entering the stone of transferrance. Wanted to be kicked, but everyone already used up their vote-kick so s/he purposefully pulled mobs to try to wipe the group. Did not work and I wasted 30m on that waiting for time to run out.

    4th: Finally cleared it despite not having 1 upgrade at all.

    I am still sitting at 30/29 and once I finally get the mount and hopefully at least 1 upgrade to finally get a Padali weapon, I won't be touching PotD for a bit.
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    Last edited by myahele; 07-24-2016 at 02:35 AM.

  8. #58
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    KeluBehemoth's Avatar
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    Kelu Euron
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    I had a premade group of 3 people...

    I'm glad the other guy didn't wipe us (as we wanted the EXP and our first clear)

    He at least asked for a kick.
    (0)

  9. #59
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    Ryaz Darksbane
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    I cleared it thankfully the first time. Second time we had quite an adventurous time getting to the boss room with my ninja, two whms and a smn. Finally get to boss and three of us were ok with our upgrades. Apparently the last one wasn't as he purposely stood in every AoE to cause a wipe to the party. 45 minutes of work down the drain with nothing to show for it.

    Doesn't help that my luck with RNG has been frickin terrible. 2nd run and I'm at 23/20 because the palace truly hates me (will probably take 5 more to hit 30/30 knwoing my luck )while others are at full 30/30 after two runs.

    I first thought the palace was fun. But after one run you realize just how poorly thought out it is.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 07-24-2016 at 05:39 AM.

  10. #60
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    They will need to try a little harder than that.
    Luckily, they do - they intend to also increase the chances for upgrades on the lower floors. So they do work double:
    1) Make going through 1-40 less appalling
    2) Make clearing more enticing

    How successful that is going to be however will depend on how much the chances increase.
    (2)

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