I joined a learning party on dps after farming it (upwards of 70 clears) on DRK (MT) and WAR (OT). I was on my best geared dps, DRG, and figured this was fair as I was learning it on dps, a scholar friend hadn't gotten his clear yet and the tank spots were taken. The few runs we did were messy and pretty bad, deaths on divebombs, slow dps on adds, tanks dying at adds. One of the dps used the LB on one of the adds and I warned him if he had to use the LB there it would be a problem later. His response was "this is a learning party." I said, "then you should learn to do it the right way." I dropped pretty shortly after because it was late, I was tired, and it was doubtful the party would ever get past adds. Two of the dps only had 200 weps. (Idk about actual dps, I don't use that program we don't speak of.) After I dropped my SCH friend said "the ninja told them your dps wasn't that good anyhow."

If the group can't make it I was not the one making or breaking that phase.