100% skills / 0% gear

[ZaaZaa]

Please SE, make an elite endgame purely based on skills, not gear.

Imagine going in an elite engame, with the usual 4 battles, with no gear rewards at all (ok could be only super nice looking gear for glamour), except the last battle that would actually give the best wep in game.

Now how it would work... you do a quest to unlock the content of these 4 battles. These quests would give you a wep and all gear (left and right side) that would ONLY be relevant in fighting in these said battles.

Here is the kicker : ALL members would have SAME LEVEL of gear. You complete that content, it's 100% skills, 0% gear.

Then, you receive the best wep in game as a reward, you go back in the other elite game content for the other gear pieces. (all except the wep).

[Canadane]

If you're skilled enough, as is your whole group, you can beat any fight at minimum ilvl. Even less than, in some cases.
This has been true for as far back as first Coil.

[Atoli]

If you're skilled enough, as is your whole group, you can beat any fight at minimum ilvl.

To be fair though, since 1.x ended, rewards for "special" runs have been severely lacking.
I remember in Aurum Vale in 1.x, you got more reward chests at the end if you beat the dungeon without the "easy mode" things like fruits and the like.
What rewards do we get for clearing content at min ilvl though? A slightly higher droprate for TT cards and primal items, if I remember right...which is more than outweight by the fact that you can run said content 5 times at max ilvl and unsynced vs. min ilvl and synced in the same time.

[Ilan]

Please SE, make an elite endgame purely based on skills, not gear.

Imagine going in an elite engame, with the usual 4 battles, with no gear rewards at all (ok could be only super nice looking gear for glamour), except the last battle that would actually give the best wep in game.

Now how it would work... you do a quest to unlock the content of these 4 battles. These quests would give you a wep and all gear (left and right side) that would ONLY be relevant in fighting in these said battles.

Here is the kicker : ALL members would have SAME LEVEL of gear. You complete that content, it's 100% skills, 0% gear.

Then, you receive the best wep in game as a reward, you go back in the other elite game content for the other gear pieces. (all except the wep).

Something like this is already in the game not to 100% but most of it. It's called savage raids. You should try it someday.

[ADVSS]

oh boy. potencies scaled down 300 percent unless positional is met entirely. Good luck good sir! skill your butt off with damage penalties unless perfectly done, even when boss turns around to spit on random healer or something they seem to do alot. wait, best weapon for syncing down? youre kidding me right? you can sync down any raid, why would this be a req for best weapon? Best weapon should be earned. not doing things at the intended i level,


This will only be a challenge to newer players and people who have no clue about mechanics or raid awareness. sure extending turn 5 by an addition 5 minutes is a bit more button pressing, but does it really mean youre that great? hell people were touching it in pprobably less than the intended/i level suggested i level(because that didnt even exist untiall months later after the game was out ad people were complaining about people entering titan with only 2k gp and dungeon gear from the only 2 level 50 dungeons available) and thus, not clearing it.

anyway, you could be a very skilled player, but in this game if youre not a very skilled warrior, youre not going to prevent a wipe anyway. Youre sort of forced to rely on everyone in the party to succeed so really

[Canadane]

To be fair though, since 1.x ended, rewards for "special" runs have been severely lacking.
I remember in Aurum Vale in 1.x, you got more reward chests at the end if you beat the dungeon without the "easy mode" things like fruits and the like.
What rewards do we get for clearing content at min ilvl though? A slightly higher droprate for TT cards and primal items, if I remember right...which is more than outweight by the fact that you can run said content 5 times at max ilvl and unsynced vs. min ilvl and synced in the same time.

I completely agree. I wish the Breathless achievement that you mentioned was a title. I'd have worn that with pride. Instead I use the equally outdated spearfishing title, hah.

I do wish we had more unique clear requirements back again. Tight requirements on speedrun options, and killing things a specific way, or taking an optional route, etc. Everything's pretty cookie-cutter nowadays.

[Azaelyia]

If i had no glue of sub stats like you i would agree you really enjoy to troll or are you really retardet like this?

[ZaaZaa]

Something like this is already in the game not to 100% but most of it. It's called savage raids. You should try it someday.

Savage is NOT 100% skills. Some players have an edge because they have better gear... In other words, a static needs a tank to fill his last role. Leader made an announcement in GC. Leader knows all the tanks in there... 2 tanks are interested for the job. They both got equal skills. One has 220 gear, and the other is 240. Who do you think will get picked ?

[FinaSel]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there an option in Duty Finder called "Minimum IL" that allows you to sync everyone's gear to that duty's minimum IL?

You could run any instance with a preformed group this way and rely on skills more than gear.

I guess the two problems would be: A.) Finding a group to do this with. and B.) Not getting any better / specific rewards for doing it.

It would just be for fun.

If there are enough people interested in doing this, you could make a group using the Party Finder tool.
I don't think there are enough people interested in it for SE to create a whole new system though.

[TallonOverworld]

Whoever cleared T5 and titan extreme back in the day with darklight gear (i70) trully answers your question.