Are the DPS checks for Nidhogg EX excessive?

[Coratanni]

Haven't done Nex yet. But I can't imagine it being harder than Seph(which I still haven't cleared yet). I dont think any of it should be nerfed though. Let the hardcore people have their challenges. Don't dumb it down for the rest of us(my raiding days feel like they are reaching an end as my reaction time and spatial awareness degrades).

Besides, I like having something pushing me to hold back Father Time a little bit longer and these kind of challenges do that a little.

[Awful]

The DPS check isn't severe in Nidhogg EX it's more about movement, dancing and positioning the add DPS check though is pretty big if you can't clear that with tanks not having more than 2 stacks of debuffs then your DPS do have an issue and you'll suffer. The only other DPS check is the Fang and Claw where again your DPS need to save their CDs and blow it up while positioning and making sure they get the orbs while their red meaning that a smart melee would be max melee range for it. I see people comparing Nidhogg EX to Seph EX and I feel that Seph was much tougher as it took me a solid week of doing it with my FC compared to Nidhogg EX which took me 2 days since our time schedules were bad.

You don't need ilvl 235+ you just need DPS that know their rotations as well as tanks and healers that can pull their own weight to be honest with you.

[AlphaFox]

Honestly if you can clear the Adds I would say your DPS should be good enough to kill him unless someone wipes but even with 2 dps going down we still cleared it. Granted now that we got more wise to it we were clearing with no wipes at all.

[Brian_]

The thing with Nidhogg EX is that SE really couldn't make the job of DPS much easier.

The mechanical barf phases of the fight are largely done in a vacuum. During the dive-bombs, you can't DPS. During the tower + tethers + AoEs, you can't DPS.

There are two main DPS checks. The first is the add-phase. Aside from the single roaming add with an incredibly obvious wind-up, there are no distractions. It is a dummy fight. During the claw and fang phase, aside from one blue getting the stack marker, there are no distractions. The red players should be handling the balls.

You don't even need to be good at what's actually hard about DPSing -- sustaining high DPS while handling a lot of mechanics.

The rest of the fight has very lenient DPS margins (as if the add-phase and claw and fang phase weren't lenient enough already). If you are failing the DPS, you need to go back to a training dummy.

[Coratanni]

Just think of how many people have been failing the dps check add phase of normal Nidhogg! lol

People do need to learn their main classes and be sure they are properly geared before diving into some of the new challenges.

[Kaldor]

Eggnog ex is the easiest trial in 3.0 tbh, mechanics are simple and the only real dps check is fang n claw. Its only hard when red tethers are derping and blue tethers are taking damage.

[Ragology]

Gotta keep it like this so the community can become more skilled and the people running this game can release more difficult content.

The Developers overestimated playerbase skill when they release A3 Savage. Lets not disappoint them again.

[Klamor]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-their-weight.

Both this one, and the linked above being on the front page of GD at the same time... I can't.... It's just... LOL!

[AskaRay]

So I am not blocked from doing the future EX encounters and I hope they will be tuned more like Sep EX.

Blocked from what future EX encounters?
Since when in HW was an EX encounter blocked by anything other than its HM equivalent?

[seekified]

They are not excessive. If you have a party of i220s who play their jobs properly, you won't have any issues (I know this from firsthand experience).

The iLvl requirements of duties aren't just numbers they pull out of thin air, they do test the trials to make sure they are beatable at these levels.