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  1. #71
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    The effect of the progression skipping pack should be to uninstall the game from your system and cancel your account for it. If you want to skip the game, then just skip the game and don't play it any more.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuthow View Post
    I am absolutely disgusted by this. I really hope that nothing even remotely like that will ever come to us... the rare dyes are already bad enough if you ask me.
    Your life sounds really nice. Of the things that inspire actual disgust in me this doesn't rate at all. I mean, implementing this in the Square version of the game seems like a bad idea at this point, but that's about it.
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  3. #73
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    I thought Yoshi said they'd never do P2W?
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    Your life sounds really nice. Of the things that inspire actual disgust in me this doesn't rate at all. I mean, implementing this in the Square version of the game seems like a bad idea at this point, but that's about it.
    people are allowed to feel however they want to about things like this. It's not like she has to meet some universal standard before calling something "disgusting"

    It sounds like you agree that the same kind of level-skip potion that's available to Chinese players would be an atrocious fit for the subscripion based FFXIV that the rest of us play, so what was the point of your comment, really/
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    I thought Yoshi said they'd never do P2W?
    I think that they know better than to implement this in an identical way to how it's been handled for China's market. The potion described in the OP is absolutely p2w and I hope Yoshi and team realize that is the case.

    I still expect them to implement something like this for 4.0 but they would do well to make it have as little resemblance as possible to this China only p2w nonsense.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yallaid View Post
    people are allowed to feel however they want to about things like this. It's not like she has to meet some universal standard before calling something "disgusting"

    It sounds like you agree that the same kind of level-skip potion that's available to Chinese players would be an atrocious fit for the subscripion based FFXIV that the rest of us play, so what was the point of your comment, really/
    And people can have discussions without resorting to the absurd and hyperbole. All it does it make the things you said more easily dismissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    I thought Yoshi said they'd never do P2W?
    Question!

    What's the "win" condition in FFXIV?
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Question!

    What's the "win" condition in FFXIV?
    I need to dig up the direct quote, but to paraphrase an interview with Yoshida: 'Anything related to helping you to clear content'. (small edit: I do believe endgame or raids or something was mentioned)
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Question!

    What's the "win" condition in FFXIV?
    probably "having access to the content considered to be the current end-game"

    I think that's a workable definition. In which case, the OP describes a p2w option because it allows a player to "pay" to "reach the current end-game content".
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yallaid View Post
    probably "having access to the content considered to be the current end-game"

    I think that's a workable definition. In which case, the OP describes a p2w option because it allows a player to "pay" to "reach the current end-game content".
    I would agree. I think Yoshida needs to stop looking at current generation WoW's cash shop for inspiration. This sorta makes sense for a game that is over a decade old and has stacks of expansions. FFXIV is too new to do this.
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