Report All the people Selling AND Buying houses in PF

[Knahli]

If there was a drought and I was the only person with access to a large reservoir of water then I could charge the locals an exuberant amount to have access to it and use the exact same logic to convince myself that I was doing a public service just because everyone 'could' and was 'willing' to afford it quite frankly. It doesn't make me any better a human being simply for the fact that I helped them reach their end goals when I exploited their situation to worm my way out of all consequences that came with the initial purchase and investment.

The bottom line is that you can argue all you want about how SE should have implemented a way to easily get a refund(despite the glaring flaws that comes with that suggestion), but at the end of the day everyone who purchased a plot, including myself, knew that there was no such compensation promised following a case of buyer's remorse, and trying to manipulate the housing situation by equating it to a circulating economy within the game is honestly just a devious exploitation of.... and I hate to admit it, a position of power.

I understand that money is a big deal to many if not most people and it's hard to part with an element that has a very high theoretical value, I also understand that many people lack the ability to empathise and accept the concept of sacrifice - but selling a house was always a deed questionable morality, undoubtedly so for cases that try to turn a profit. Not one person was surprised that Yoshi/SE were against this practice when it was finally addressed because even the more hardened of players out there are aware on at least some level that what they are doing is just abusing a system that doesn't exist for a reason and monopolising on the desperation of the richer elites.

[MomomiMomi]

Please. Water is a case of life and death. A house on FF14 is a luxury. The morality of these two situations is not even remotely comparable.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Well isn't that what the water company's do on a daily basis :P That was a daft scenario. As for your thing about buyers remorse that's a load of rubbish. Players were promised just after houses were first released a transfer system and loads more houses coming into circulation. Both of these never happened so players have took it upon themselves to recuperate costs towards the next tier house. For all we know the transfer system could deduct price of small from medium price etc.

I don't agree with flippers but I do agree with genuine players who are selling to upgrade, well as long as they are not being greedy MOFO's

[Masekase_Hurricane]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t....38-and-Beyond

I guess the system they was working on failed.

[Avera]

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Greed shouldn't win. I like your analogy about what is a public service.

[Nicobo]

.....For all we know the transfer system could deduct price of small from medium price etc. ......

For all I know the transfer system idea of DEV is for transfering Private Chambers, Airship progress ...etc but not for trade-in the old house.

Moreover, why ppl will stop selling if there is demand to buy? This system will not stop ppl "exchange" something in game. ^^:

[Masekase_Hurricane]

For all I know the transfer system idea of DEV is for transfering Private Chambers, Airship progress ...etc but not for trade-in the old house.

Moreover, why ppl will stop selling if there is demand to buy? This system will not stop ppl "exchange" something in game. ^^:

01-29-2014 09:45 PM

Greetings, everyone!

Thanks for all the requests. There are lots of good ideas here that I will be sure to share with the development team.

In the meantime I wanted to share some things that are on the horizon.

First, we are currently looking into making it so that changing jobs in housing areas will not place your actions on cooldown. Once we decide on the implementation timing we will be sure to let you all know!

Also, as you may know, there is currently no system in place to allow you to upgrade your land plot, which means it wouldn't be possible to carry over your furnishings were you able to upgrade from a small plot to a medium one. However! We are looking into implementing a moving feature, which will allow you to bring everything to your new home.

We are still in the planning phase of this system, but once there are developments we will be sure to let you know.

They already stated it was to upgrade a house to the next size personal and FC. Even if/when transfer comes in we will prob see an increase in FC's for sale

[Nicobo]

01-29-2014 09:45 PM....They already stated it was to upgrade a house to the next size personal and FC. Even if/when transfer comes in we will prob see an increase in FC's for sale

But the quote was 2014 Jan! At that moment Personal Housing even had not been implemented. So Camate was talking for FC housing only.
Some update information could be found in recent letters, but in general it only mentioned there will be a transfer system after implementing apartment style housing and it mentioned it is for moving house and didn't mention about plot upgrade or refund ..etc which implied the purpose maybe for moving your house to new housing area easier.


Anyway it was just guessing by what they said, and,

Please do not looking forward to it. ^^;

Because your old quote reminds me YoshiP had stated below clearly in the past:
//quote
1:14:22
Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
//end quote

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Yes I remember that comment but that was before they realised they totally screwed up lol

Cant really say it wasn't for personal housing just cause it wasn't implemented. They are ahead of us and know what is getting implemented and when.

S.E most likely made that statement knowing they was implementing personal housing 8 months later. Especially since they stated work had begun on 3.0 in February '14.

[Nicobo]

Yes I remember that comment but that was before they realised they totally screwed up lol

By the way, thanks for reminding me "We are still in the planning phase of this system" since 2014 Jan.... ^^;