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  1. #1691
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I really want the weeping chest...
    But good god Does it exist ? T.T

    Midan torso would be sexy but so far out of reach

    Actually the anima is not that bad
    Well it depend of the content
    In aoe heavy content, low spellspeed is Nice for mana tick. The anima is good for heavy crit and high damage
    In single target destruction the moar the better ! So yeah animano
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  2. #1692
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Triple Flares stopped being a thing in 3.0 when you hit 60 because X-Ethers did not give back enough MP for another Flare. However, in 3.2 they added Max-Ethers so you can do triple Flares.

    F3 > Raging Strikes > F2x3> Flare > Convert > Swiftcast > Flare > Max-Ether > Flare > Transpose. Do that, and then go into F3 > F2x2 > Flare > Transpose > Repeat. And that's your AoE.

    I also suggest doing this on 1st or second pull at the beginning and after boss fight, so you'll have RS and Convert ready for the boss.
    Got it - terrific answer, thanks.

    Where do you guys feel that BLMs stand these days, compared to summoners? SMN was fairly bad in 2.x, but now it seems they've taken the AoE crown, which obviously was what BLMs used to be all about. The double/triple flare is still pretty monstrous AoE damage though, and I'm guessing someone who has mastered Enochian can really lay down the single-target damage. Thoughts?
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  3. #1693
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I'm kinda bias but I think besides AoE SMN damage is pretty garbage. They do a lot of DoT damage and have some burst with Fester/Painflare/Deathflare. And we can lay down 3-4 Fire 2's and then fire off 2-3 Flares. But as far as ST damage goes if we can go full on Fire 4 turret they'll never be able to catch up especially when I casually crit for 8k-9k crits.

    I could never really get around it's gimpy pet system being a glorified DoT and just tacking on skills to pets for the SMN to use mostly one being a DoT extender and one a spike shield.

    There's also the fact they only get a damage buff in their trance for 18 seconds which can't be extended while a BLM can have Enochian chains up for over 2 minutes at a time before a full refresh.
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  4. #1694
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    I finished my relic earlier this week, went 120 SS (obv) and 120 crit. I've never been much a fan of PIE builds.

    However, my SS is quite high now (think 1109) and I find I burn through my mp pretty quick and am having to refresh first enoch when it still has quite a bit of time left on it. Is this something we just have to accept, or should we maybe look into packing in enough PIE to get off another fire IV? Or maybe hold leylines until 2nd/3rd generation enoch to allow me the same amount of casts in the shorter timer?
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  5. #1695
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Well with enough spell speed, one should no longer need leylines.. since leylines> oh look attacks are going off were leylines is placed, lol
    It is true that with higher ss you may need to adjust your rotation a bit, i also sit at over 1100, with food

    As far as smn vs blm, smn is not overly horrible but nowhere near blm ST damage, they do have the slight edge on aoe
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  6. #1696
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    That was my line of thinking. With lower SS, leyline used to help me get my full opener off before enoch dropped, but now it feels like I burn through my opener and then just waste the remaining time on enoch by early refreshing
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  7. #1697
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I see. It would be interesting to do the maths for BLM vs SMN on 5 and 10 targets over ~20 seconds and see what the end potency would be.
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  8. #1698
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    SMN probably wins by virtue of Deathflare not suffering damage reduction on multiple targets. More if it crits.
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  9. #1699
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Basically it boils down to this and it's incredibly simple. The jobs are fairly balanced.

    SMN is better at AoE, boss fights where there multiple enemies (A1 for example) because they can multi DoT, and also on fights with high movement because they have a ton of instant casts and oGCDs.

    BLM is still great on AoE, especially if you're using RS + Convert + Max Ether. Their ST damage is much better when not as much movement is required.

    So take A5-7. BLM should beat SMN on these fights because there isn't a whole lot of moment and the adds in them die quickly so multi-dotting isn't really a thing. But on A8, there is a ton of movement and with the whole add phase, multi-dotting could really allow SMN to shine. I haven't checked FFlogs, but my guess is you'd see BLM on top on 5-7, with SMN on top in 8
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  10. #1700
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Does on ozma and calistoferi only drop the gear for casters for WC? I have the body but I want the arms. I have yet to see any other bosses drop any caster pieces.
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