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  1. #1651
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    Lala Yuki
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    Okay so....what is the least dps loss AOE rotation? I use F3 > F2x3 > Flare > conv > swift > Flare > Transpose ....then Idk. I try two different things, if there is 5+ enemies I use Blizz 2 twice then fire 3, if there isn't I use Blizz 1 twice then fire 3.

    All the things I look up say to use Tranpose > F3 > F2 > Flare but i dont even have enough mp for F2 then Flare after my original Flare > Tranpose, so do I just hardcast Flare again, transpose F3 repeat?

    F2 = 100 potency, 2.69 cast / Flare = 260/10%-50% 130, 3.58 cast

    F3 > F2x3 > Flare > Transpose (wait for tick) > Blizz 1x2(4.48) or Blizz 2x2(3.58) > F3(1.58) > F2x2 (4.38)> Flare(3.58) > Transpose etc
    F3 > F2x3 > Flare > Transpose (wait for tick) > F3 (3.13)> Flare (3.58)> Transpose > F3(3.13) > Flare(3.58) >Transpose etc is the better aoe?
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  2. #1652
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    You should be getting another MP tick during your F3 cast to allow the F2 > F2 > Flare. If your Spell Speed is high enough, you'll need to wait a brief moment before casting F3 in order to get the second MP tick.
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  3. #1653
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki View Post
    You should be getting another MP tick during your F3 cast to allow the F2 > F2 > Flare. If your Spell Speed is high enough, you'll need to wait a brief moment before casting F3 in order to get the second MP tick.
    That might explain it....I have 1035 & I never get a second tick when I go directly into a F3 cast, lol that kinda sucks, higher SS is bad for aoe xD
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  4. #1654
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Well another thing that wrecks havic with multiple adds is thundercloud, so if you sharpcast thunder and have the rng god on your side multiple thunderclouds on different adds is a thing of beauty
    But yes for the most part aoe situations is back to similar 2.X aoe, minus not being able to do 3X or quad flares like we used to.
    I also sit at around your ss RL
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  5. #1655
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    Soooo question of the day Anima Weapon, what stats are you all going to go with? And will it be better then the lore or Savage weapon now?
    I only get home later today so have no idea what stats can be added and such
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  6. #1656
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    Lavitz Bale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Soooo question of the day Anima Weapon, what stats are you all going to go with? And will it be better then the lore or Savage weapon now?
    I only get home later today so have no idea what stats can be added and such
    120 SS / 120 Crit.

    Better than Lore, not better than Midan.
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  7. #1657
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    Cool thanks for the info. I was going to go foremost with ss regardless but was unsure max points
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  8. #1658
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    Weaver Velvet
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    Guys I have some questions ,I know SS is our main second attribute but how many do we need it to be on a safe casting position ? People said its 1100 is that correct? And please look at my build and see if got big problems please . Thank you
    This is my BiS build : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UDSD
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  9. #1659
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaverVelvet View Post
    Guys I have some questions ,I know SS is our main second attribute but how many do we need it to be on a safe casting position ? People said its 1100 is that correct? And please look at my build and see if got big problems please . Thank you
    This is my BiS build : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UDSD
    You don't really need any amount, just get as much as you can. 1000+ is preferred.
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  10. #1660
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Just in case any Black Mages were wondering, The chest piece that drops in The Weeping City of Mhach is a great upgrade until you can get the chest from A8 and would be BiS if you don't do Savage. I've only seen it drop on Ozma so far, and I ran it 7 times this week.
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