Weeping city of mhach come toxic?

[SpookyGhost]

24man launches -> People who know/figure out how mechanics work get mad at others for not knowing, instead of teaching they just yell at everyone or leave.
Guides come out -> Most people know what to do, those that don't watch the guides are either ignored and carried or kicked.
A week or 2 later -> Everyone knows what they're doing, it's faceroll, zzzz.

[Kyuuen]

On patch day I tried the weeping city and 3-4 people quit and the rest of the alliance vote abandoned the duty about half way through.

This isn't uncommon with new content. Got passed Ozma with my first group, but ran out of time on the last boss. Took literally 9 hours to get a group that didn't VA on Ozma wipes to get a clear.

[CuteWhisper]

The times I went in Weeping City the alliances was very friendly

[silentwindfr]

Ah yes, letting other people enjoy the quest of finding out how new content and mechanics are used in PUGs, it does slow you down right? Oooh the horror new content brings; you have searched websites, have read first-week guides, have watched first-week videos and now you might still wipe because many others are actually still fresh and might want to find out for themselves, or just with their friends. Having this experience just few and far between patches doesn't really help either, it's better you enrage yourself end explode in Alliance chat, right.

that really the point here, what i have describe are situation where everyone was not knowing the content and where we didfigure stuff, but when suddenly you begin to notice people that litterally make the raid wipe and ignore the information found by the group.... you can't expect people to simply ignore this.
plus i will be blunt, no one is saying go see a video, often people give pointer for the gimmick...saying you want to find alone in a multiplayer game is rude to the other member of the group. worst is almost insulting to the people taking time to explain what they did learn throught wipe and such. it's not a solo game. if someone explain the combat be happy, because not everyone is as nice.

24man launches -> People who know/figure out how mechanics work get mad at others for not knowing, instead of teaching they just yell at everyone or leave.

actually is often worst than this... some people don't want to try to do the challenge. like they don't do them cycle, stay in aoe because they have healer and such... i don't support bad comportement, but i can understand the frustration... not everyone have countless hours available for play, some will try them best to figure and do the fight the best they can. but some don't care, them pleasure come first and that rude.

don't get me wrong, become toxic and begin to scream on people is rude too. i will not say it didn't happend to me, yesterday i was doing last step of faith and we had 2-3 people that was always dying at the same point, ignoring the mechanic of the fight and killing the whole group, when the two other time it was said what to do... then yeah i did said:" for god sake follow the strategy or we will never do it. "

yes it can look rude, but in france we do have a proverb: "your freedom stop where mine begin" when people begin to troll the other by doing what they want kill the group, you can't expect people to be happy. and yes, FF14 have a huge trouble of skill actually. often you can see people with very good stuff get destroyed in dungeon, simply because they did become overconfident and arrogant.

[odie]

when suddenly you begin to notice people that litterally make the raid wipe and ignore the information found by the group.... you can't expect people to simply ignore this.

Some of the instructions get ignored because A.) Due to past toxicity in alliance chat, some people turn it off entirely. B.) Such as last night, the person giving instructions kept posting it line by line, and other chat flooded it out of the chat window, then they pulled. Nobody had time to read it and the party leading it was impatient.

[Canadane]

People upset as others inability to learn after repeatedly failing the same mechanic isn't toxicity. It's generally a normal reaction and feeling in such a situation.

[Maero]

Most likely because players want the dungeon done quick like everything else and want their loot and upgrade item.
I will try the nightmare tonight, lol

[Andevom]

Toxicity could easily be avoided if people just dismissed the comments that rub them the wrong way. Instead, they engage and just escalate it to a point where no one is willing to buckle. If you feel someone isn't offering anything constructive, move on and offer something constructive yourself. This is what I and several others do, and it results in groups being able to get through content like this.

[eschaton]

People upset as others inability to learn after repeatedly failing the same mechanic isn't toxicity. It's generally a normal reaction and feeling in such a situation.

Yeah because that new 24 man raid is one 'repeatedly' same mechanic. Obviously.

[odie]

Toxicity could easily be avoided if people just dismissed the comments that rub them the wrong way. Instead, they engage and just escalate it to a point where no one is willing to buckle. If you feel someone isn't offering anything constructive, move on and offer something constructive yourself. This is what I and several others do, and it results in groups being able to get through content like this.

Toxicity could be avoided but maybe people shouldn't be toxic? This is not regular frustration, this is people being assholes and enjoying the opportunity to act like that.