Astrope, the 2 seater pegasus takes over 5 years to obtain if you do it casually

[AlphaFox]

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I am all for helping people learn but as I said when every instance I have ran is wipe after wipe with no progress only to find I wasted an hour or more getting no where either due to the person not listening, just discourages even trying for me.

[EveK]

I don't actually see any complaints about anything Square has done. I do, however, see complaints about these two things:

1. People will abuse it. So report them so their mentor status or access to the entire game gets revoked. Don't whine on the forums about people blatantly admitting abuse; copy and paste it into a support desk ticket.

2. It takes too much effort. So don't get it. As for the absurd "math" about frequency to total time ratios, there's no time limit here. If you don't feel like doing it five times a day or twice a day or even every day, don't. Don't whine on the forums about how you feel somehow obligated to torture yourself. This is meant to ensue as a byproduct of being a good (and evidently very dedicated) mentor, not something you brainlessly try to directly pursue at the expense of the health of yourself and all near you.

[aeoncs]

This is meant to ensue as a byproduct of being a good (and evidently very dedicated) mentor, not something you brainlessly try to directly pursue at the expense of the health of yourself and all near you.

Entirely flawed thinking right there. Someone who is doing their Mentor roulette, doesn't even matter how often per day, frequently isn't automatically a good or dedicated mentor; it's just someone who does something on a regular basis. Locking mounts, titles and similar rewards behind participation in a system like this, doesn't promote proper Mentor qualities in the slightest, whereas something like Mentor recommendations would have been the smarter and more importantly a long-term solution and maybe the first step in the right direction.

[EveK]

I concur that the process/requirements for becoming a mentor are very often a poor match for what actually makes a good mentor. That does NOT mean that we should fail to reward proper mentors just because some are jerks. What I'd really like to see is prompt revocation of people that flagrantly defy the basic principles of what is intended for the mentor system.

[aeoncs]

Well, of course, good mentors should absolutely be rewarded - and I have seen some really dedicated and helpful ones.
It's just that the entire mentor system was incredibly flawed from the getgo and instead of making improvements, they somehow manage to make things worse with every new addition. Still, no point crying over it. Those who are doing the roulette either way will get it eventually, whether they deserve it or not.

[Celef]

Did a daily yesterday with a mentor and a new player.
The new one spoke english, so did the mentor but....guess who had to explain all the mechanics (in a foreign language ^^") to the new player ?
And guess who rushed the dungeon without a simple "hello" ?
But yeah, those who will get the mount will surely be "good (and evidently very dedicated) mentor"

[MeiUshu]

HUGE RANT COMING UP SO ....AVOID IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ IT

Some of you became mentors because they want to help others, what does it matter to you if a reward takes years or minutes to be achieved? I mean seriously, you all sound jealous of something that, in truth, has little importance in the game itself and shouldn‘t even impact you as that is not why you are a Mentor, or am I mistaken ?

Is that important for progression in the game ? no, it is not. Besides, it is not like you cannot get the mount, only to some it will go faster and others it will go slower, or you mean to say that because your neighbourg, who can invest time 10x more then you, should get it at the same time as you because well is unfair and the like ? Even if there was a 1000 roulettes, those that can invest time will get it in no time and they wont care more then they care today for mentees, which should be the ONLY priority and reason why they are Mentors.

Everything in this game function the same way. Rewards are achieved by some faster by others never. I dont see you making a big fuss over content that some of us cannot do because is LOCKED behind having a pre-made or PF, some of us cant never do because there are never anybody when they want to do it ? or even cant commit to a static for RL reasons. I dont see you complain about that, on the contrary you tend to tell them that is not your problem and to deal with it and to *get gud*. Do you see us complain ? No. At best we say how sad we are, but we dont complain as such, not in the proportion I see it done for a horse in here.

How is a pixel horse more important then CONTENT that we cannot access. I mean seriously, isn’t not accessing content more important, shouldn’t it be more important ? You make of a horse that has no impact on the game, your battle horse to scream loud how some will run Mentor roulette to get it fast and etc.. but is ALREADY the case in all the content that has somewhat luxury rewards and yet, this time, you choose to make it a big fuss ? Be constant people dont be trivial and futile over totally stupid things.

What about those that can never be a Mentor, or dont want to be a mentor, shouldnt those have the same right to have that mount by, for example, run 2000 Exp roulette ? shouldn’t this be fair ? I dont see you complain about this ? why should that mount be more exclusive for Mentor roulette then for Exp roulette ? yet I dont see you fight for something that is definitedly wrong, you prefer to fight over trivialities on how long it will take and the like. Seriously,might be good to ask yourself why you are a Mentor in the first place. Ohh yes I forgot, all those that want a horse, they should become Mentors..what a stupid mentality is this one ? You dont deserve more then anyone else this horse, but SE prefered to make Mentors a somewhat superior category, shame on SE, that is diminishing the real true role of a Mentor, where only reward should be the pleasure to help.

Those that will get the Mount will invest the time into it. Nothing forbids you to do the same, you can’t ? Is that SE fault ? no it is not. So why complain again ? whether is 1000 or a 2000 roulettes, it will take you longer then those that can invest 24h/24h, besides YOU can get it. Some content, some of us cannot do it when others can, they have to wait months before they can access it , unless they have luck once to be integrated into a group that took pity (see locked content from DF access), yet again I dont see you complain. What about the achievements, some of them are ridiculous, yet none of you ever complained about those. Ahh you mean they dont give a horse as a reward right ?...how more silly this community can go and of course we can wait, afterall is not your fault if we cant find groups or we have RL lives right ? again what a mentality. Yet a horse..ahhh that NO TOUCH.

This whole thread and complains are so infantile, childish and give to new players the wrong idea about the whole Mentoring system. SE didnt realize how many children play this game to get a big fuss over trivial stuff, they failed in considering that rewards are the epitomy of this game and for that yes blame on them but on the other hand who would think that such petty stuff would generate reactions like this one ? The image given on the whole Mentoring system is poor and sad.
We are not mature for this system and we shouldnt, none of us should, take up the responsability to teach the game, until we are able to think with our brains and know priorities. A horse is certainly not one.

Is that important for some of you ? of course, and I understand some of you can‘t live without a pixel horse, to those I would suggest to learn to pick the right fights rather then over something of no importance and help the community to become better rather then give the right opposite example. Besides you will get it just work for it. If you dont get it well your gaming life wont suffer right ? The only thing is you wont be able to be affected by e-peen superiority attitude and make a show off of you having that Epitomy of a horse and mock those that dont, I would say you can live with this idea of not being a God ? right ?. You will be *just* like the others, part of the common people(players) how a big shame that must be to feel this way.

We are right now displaying a maturity level that even a 1yo baby would not display when they do stupid stuff they , at least, know they do stupid stuff here we dont even know it.
Lets not make out of Mentor (already a tool used too many times wrongly) even more a tool of shame by displaying shameful attitude and petty fights over irrilevant stuff and pick the fights that are worth fighting for. You really must all be bored to complain, fight over a pixel.

Me not a mentor doesnt give me right to speak in here ? guess what , yes it does, especially when I read really really silly stuff like this one.

[Morzy]

Does it imply that they need to be bonus included roulettes? if not.. just spam it 2000 times.

[bounddreamer]

I've been running mentor roulette every day since it came out because I enjoy it and I want to help. I've always queued up as the role in need, usually tank. I've gotten everything from guildhests to extreme trials. My approach is to do the best I can on my role, and only offer tips if it seems like someone is struggling or doing something obviously wrong. I've never gotten any flack for running as a mentor.

Giving mentor roulette this kind of highly gated reward is only going to encourage bad behavior when people already have a tendency to distrust people with a crown. I think one of the reasons I almost always get mentor roulette comms is because I don't go in there with attitude.

I wish they'd change the crown icon and I wish they'd change the nature of the reward. Just doing the roulette itself is very poorly thought through.

[PotatoTree]

People are missing the point. You can be the most helpful mentor in the world and still not get 2000 roulette wins in this games lifetime. Quantity does not mean quality.

This achievement does not reward good mentors, it just rewards mentors with more time on their hands. And it's not just a little more time, it's like several hours a day for a year worth of time.

This achievement is basically a slap in the face for people who do like to mentor. It's basically saying "no matter how much you like mentoring or how good you are at helping others, you'll never be a good mentor by this game's standards".