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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by HReincarnate View Post
    You know that they just get a warning, or if they'd been warned before a suspension, right? The GMs don't reverse transactions and take away houses. You might scare people who get caught from doing the same thing again but no plots will be freed up.
    a warning is better than nothing
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  2. #12
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    Saori Kobayashi
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    It is funny how weak SE is on keeping their ToS in place. I mean no wonder there are still gilseller and idiots who buy gil. They need to be way harsher in enforcing their rules.
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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    It is funny how weak SE is on keeping their ToS in place. I mean no wonder there are still gilseller and idiots who buy gil. They need to be way harsher in enforcing their rules.
    They have to be careful how they wield the ban hammer though. We know that RMT is bad...but SE themselves (other than the ToS that a majority of players won't read) don't exactly make it clear. You get hit with gil selling messages within the very first cutscene starting the game, and a player that doesn't know anyone could be like..."hey yeah, that sounds good. I'll do that" and then they end up banning a good number of players. We ourselves don't know how many people are buying gil. But it must be enough people to hurt the game if they are banned outright if the RMT are still very much alive within the game.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    I have already a house and will still report everyone who sell plot abandonment
    The more reports they get, the larger the issue becomes and the more likely a definitive response from SE is. Personally, the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell, they'd make some use out of it are just crying in their beer. To them I say, "Man up, relinquish the plot, admit that your gaming of the system isn't on and move on".
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The more reports they get, the larger the issue becomes and the more likely a definitive response from SE is. Personally, the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell, they'd make some use out of it are just crying in their beer. To them I say, "Man up, relinquish the plot, admit that your gaming of the system isn't on and move on".
    I'm not even complaining...i'm just saying. You're unlikely to get anyone to relinquish their house at a loss.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    I'm not even complaining...i'm just saying. You're unlikely to get anyone to relinquish their house at a loss.
    Why? What are they going to do with the additional gil? Count it? Seriously, it's time SE took this issue on, head on, and dealt with it.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Why? What are they going to do with the additional gil? Count it? Seriously, it's time SE took this issue on, head on, and dealt with it.
    Why? Because they already spent the gil on the house. in the millions of gil.....Nobody is going to surrender that like you want them to. Nobody just spends that much gil on a house and just throws it away by giving up the plot. Unless they were very charitable...and if they were, they wouldn't have bought the house to flip it in the first place. You have too much faith in them to think they'd eat the loss like that.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell
    Oh, that's the sour grapes crowd... I thought it was someone else in the scenario, and specifically this thread.
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  9. #19
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Oh, that's the sour grapes crowd... I thought it was someone else in the scenario, and specifically this thread.
    It's the sour grapes crowd, if someone in this thread identifies in that crowd, that's their business. But seriously, players engaging in property speculation do so at their own risk. Their tears should not be considered by SE when deciding a policy for multi-plot ownership.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    Why? Because they already spent the gil on the house. in the millions of gil.....Nobody is going to surrender that like you want them to. Nobody just spends that much gil on a house and just throws it away by giving up the plot. Unless they were very charitable...and if they were, they wouldn't have bought the house to flip it in the first place. You have too much faith in them to think they'd eat the loss like that.
    If you spent gil on the plot, and gil on the house and gil on the furnishings, then you're using the actual home. I was referring to those who own multiple plots with the intent of reselling all but one of them by exploiting the system. If you as an account holder have multiple characters on a single server each of which owns a separate home and has furnished it, then it's different, but I was referring to speculators. That said, if they enforce one plot per account per server shared across all characters on that account/server, which I think they should; then they need to ensure that such players can choose which plot to keep, and be compensated in full for the plots they must relinquish, along with a transfer system of some kind to ensure they do not lose unique furnishings.

    Property speculators are one thing, players who make use of actual homes are an other. Unfortunately both are different facets of the issue with housing in this game.
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