is selling housing bannable?

[Zelas]

No matter the reason, the act of "resale of housing" (as most people wrongfully call it) is dishonest and wrong.

The game does not allow the selling of housing between players, and it's probably that way for a reason. If the ones buying houses become bored with it and don't want it anymore, their one and only option should be to simply relinquish it. If they aren't happy with losing the gil they spent, then maybe impulse buying of housing is what's the real problem. Think before buying; Am I really going to use it long enough to justify the price?

That's how the game is designed, whether you agree with it or not. If you were selling the house itself for the price you got it, it would be alright. Selling the act of relinquishing the house, even if it's for the price you paid it for, is still ripping someone off of gil they would normally not have to pay for the house, so it's wrong.

Sounds harsh? That's the housing system, though. No matter how flawed it is.

Just like it's annoying to you that you have to lose your gil if you don't want your house anymore, it's annoying for someone who wants a house but cannot find one due to it being limited.

There's downsides for both "sides", so there's no reason to pity anyone because they no longer want their house but they don't want to lose their investment. It's a selfish excuse that encourages a dishonest practice.

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[Cwestcott18]

Cause when you do that, you ask someone X millions of gils they where not supposed to pay, especially now that a medium plot is around 7 millions.
Sooooo, It's racketing cause if you leave your plot like Reinha said or used the 45 days system, they won't have to pay extra gils

From what I understand is its more about are you willing to pay to get your own plot sooner than later, so that's what the extra gil is for, and the plot owner isn't really taking advantage of the other person, because they are receiving the amount they asked, it is the buyers own decision to spend double. Which if someone is desperate enough to do

[Kabzy]

Cause when you do that, you ask someone X millions of gils they where not supposed to pay, especially now that a medium plot is around 7 millions.
Sooooo, It's racketing cause if you leave your plot like Reinha said or used the 45 days system, they won't have to pay extra gils

Once again, the 45 day system which isn't actually active, so for the tenth time it's not a valid argument. Also it's funny how people are fine with this if someone puts a PF up for 'looking to buy', but not the other way round. It's the same process, just initiated by the other party.

I'll state again that I'm not condoning multiple purchases for reselling, but I'm not going to continue arguing about selling single plots, the salt here is too real. Quite frankly, people who geniunely want to get rid of their plots aren't going to have much difficuly a few days into the patch.

[Lexia]

Again, invalid because the demolition feature has been stopped. And not many people would freely leave a medium/large plot. Small maybe, but not the other two. I'm quite baffled that people would rather a plot sit there abandoned for however long than actually allowing a willing person to pay to relinquish it.

I know of couple people on server I play on that have given up house for free there one person that has even bought houses for the sole purpose of just giving away. So yes there may not be that many but there are people that do it. Most people are more interested in getting their gil back then letting someone have the house that would use it.

[Zelas]

The 45 days system was implemented for the sole purpose of compensating for the involuntary loss of housing from being away from the game for a long time.
It was not meant as a way for you to have your money back for your house when you get sick of it. If you choose to consider it so, it's your business, but your argument is completely invalid.

Got sick of your house? Relinquish it. Don't want to lose your money? Wait it out.

Some people have been waiting for the opportunity to buy a house in a fair and proper manner for much longer than you'll have to wait for them to reinstate the automatic reclamation of housing.

[Morzy]

Well mostly yours XD

Why me. T_T Is it because of my black kitty, does he look evil?

Why do people (not you) excuse others when they exploit the 'game design' in a way that disrupts others? I mean, seriously there are numerous ways in which individuals or groups can rain on another players' parade in an MMORPG that involve exploiting the game design, bad or otherwise, why do we need to excuse people who do this? Hell, I've seen people making a virtue out of this reselling of plot relinquishment information like it's some kind of exemplary instance of capitalism in practice, when in fact it's little more than carpetbagging.

I think people flock this particular exploit so much because it affects so many people and really leaves a stain on the community.


It is wrong that so many others get away with exploitation but more people need to voice what they don't like, just as some r in this thread.

ALSO KOS-MOS I LUV U

[Celef]

I'll state again that I'm not condoning multiple purchases for reselling, but I'm not going to continue arguing about selling single plots, the salt here is too real. Quite frankly, people who geniunely want to get rid of their plots aren't going to have much difficuly a few days into the patch.

Of course it's salty, I'll assume some of us here do not have houses, might not get one tomorrow and you come saying we should accept to be racketed (not sure if the word exists ^^") because SE did not do things properly and some people take advantage of the situation ^^"

[Zelas]

Also it's funny how people are fine with this if someone puts a PF up for 'looking to buy', but not the other way round.

That's your assumption. I'm 100% against people that try to buy housing from "resellers". The buyers are as much a part of the problem as the sellers.

[Rhodkr]

Of course it's salty, I'll assume some of us here do not have houses, might not get one tomorrow and you come saying we should accept to be racketed (not sure if the word exists ^^") because SE did not do things properly and some people take advantage of the situation ^^"

Well really what "selling a house" is, is really accepting a bribe to relinquish the land you own. It's not really buying any property. Last I checked, bribery is illegal so...

I do agree with you btw, just trying help find another word!

[Morzy]

I'm not salty because I don't have a house. I've been waiting patiently for new plots with this patch because the particular house I want is a very sought after location.. And frankly i'm not angry at the people selling plots because it might hinder me from buying one.. No I'm more angry at the ones reselling plot to everyone else who isn't as patient as I. Yes I understand the people buying the plots r to blame for giving sanction to this behavior but I would like to beleive they r doing it out of desperation n no other alternative to get a house other than beign patient..