3.3 Patch Notes(Pre)

[Khalithar]

Kinda jealous the DRK buffs are PvP only, especially that Sole Survivor buff. As for Ninja that Katon buff is pretty huge. Not complaining one bit. Though I suspect little will change since I slowly found it better to use Katon over Doton anyway.

Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk some sort offense based group utility makes sense.

[MagiusNecros]

Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk offense based group utility makes sense.

I agree 100%. DS in 20% should be PVP only. But if SoSu did something everywhere it would give them some utility. Pretty much no positional attack required for a "Trick Attack" effect if you will. Mainly for the purpose of the DRK getting their restore.

[Khalithar]

I agree 100%. DS in 20% should be PVP only. But if SoSu did something everywhere it would give them some utility. Pretty much no positional attack required for a "Trick Attack" effect if you will. Mainly for the purpose of the DRK getting their restore.

Now imagine if they stack, Trick Attack, Slashing debuff, and SoSu 10% all stacked. Would be pretty beastly and therefore never happen. XD

[MagiusNecros]

Now imagine if they stack, Trick Attack, Slashing debuff, and SoSu 10% all stacked. Would be pretty beastly and therefore never happen. XD

One thing the PvP people can try is to see if Trick, Slashing and the new SoSu do indeed stack. If they do it could be wonderful.

[Mutemutt]

One thing the PvP people can try is to see if Trick, Slashing and the new SoSu do indeed stack. If they do it could be wonderful.

My guess is it won't stack with trick attack because they'll just tag on the same vulnerability debuff onto it instead of making a unique one. Right now, the physical vulnerability from mch's hypercharge and the physical vuln from the tank pvp skill, full swing, overwrite each other; I'm assuming the same will apply to this if the move does affect magic and physical damage.

[MagiusNecros]

My guess is it won't stack with trick attack because they'll just tag on the same vulnerability debuff onto it instead of making a unique one. Right now, the physical vulnerability from mch's hypercharge and the physical vuln from the tank pvp skill, full swing, overwrite each other; I'm assuming the same will apply to this if the move does affect magic and physical damage.

We'll have to see since SoSu has it's own icon. Probably gonna have to compare any sissy attack with Trick up and then with both up. If it's the same they don't stack. If they do...then gravy. And maybe healers will get wrecked.

[Mahono]

Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk some sort offense based group utility makes sense.

so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and godly fell cleave (500). While having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.

[Khalithar]

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I say "over the top" not because I think warrior is fine. But rather if drk gets that drastic of a dps buff (20% DS and 10% debuff with Sole Survivor) it will be WAY too good in comparison to paladin. Paladin would once again become the third wheel tank rather than it's current situation of being essentially equal to drk.