Scholar role.

[Llynd]

The issue is with balance. The SCH ability to heal is closer to AST and WHM than WHM and AST dps is to SCH. There has to be some balance.

Embrace spam from fairy alone is stupid powerful.

Yeah i know! This is why I'm asking you Guys to share your thoughts. I believe it would be more appropriate to remove the heal prowess from E.T, since the job isn't supposed to heal that much

[Nekotee]

Remove the heal ? From a healer ?

Nooooooo !

The sch is not half heal half DPS
He should be able to keep à group alive alone if the derp co-heal die

[DarkmoonVael]

Yeah i know! This is why I'm asking you Guys to share your thoughts. I believe it would be more appropriate to remove the heal prowess from E.T, since the job isn't supposed to heal that much

Its needs to have a sustainable base level healing though, and is for 4 man content as well as 8 man content where you may find SCH x 2 is what you are given from DF. Also needs to be high enough helaing throughput to be able to hela if your co-healer dies in raids. It would be dreadful if SCh healing was reduced and raids would turn into "AST/WHM died guys, its a wipe" constantly.

The way this game is set up doesnt really support true hybrid jobs which is what we would need for a style of SCH that you seem to like. If the game could support jobs like this, the jobs may certainly get more interesting say the least

[Llynd]

Yeah sad but True... I indeed like these hybrid jobs.. And this would fit sch so Well....
And for the 4 man contents, EMBRACE is actually enough xD

[FeliAiko]

SCH doesn't need to heal less, and Broil is fine where it's at. It's more than double the potency of Ruin I which, until HW, was a net MP gain to SCHs everytime they used it (thanks to SE trying to alleviate SMN MP issues by lowering Ruin's cost during 2.5). Whenever I see claims for SCHs to get more DPS I just think it's people wanting to be lazy and coast on the efforts of their co-healer. It's bad enough as it is seeing SCHs in CS during raids whilst Eos just burns all her CDs before the Tank even completes their first combo.

[Llynd]

The exemple you Just said isn't what a good sch in end game raids would do. I don't get why you want it to keep healing that bad. Would you remove CS if you could ? So what ? A healer is supposed to heal an nothing more ?
I strongly believe True healing is for whm/ast. I really think scholars should be dps even before being healers.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I really think scholars should be dps even before being healers.

Then you should probably be playing summoner.

[Rawrz]

We are healers foremost. We just have a goal to be as useful to the party as possible. During burst DPS phases like Mirages in A6s, if a dps or two die because of "derp" Ill call out to the whm to spam holy and ill rez, after i shadowflare and bane a bio. She saves us from a wipe if its the smn or the mch.

You have to calculate how much is too much for your cohealer. Any death that isn't mechanically related is on you, as the sch coheal. We have, in my mind, the most powerful proactive and equally reactive, toolkit. it just lacks sustainability, which is why we are very effecient at cohealing. The brute force of our main healer helps to spread out our need for burst heals, focusing instead on shortening the encounter with our mana nuetral dps.

[FoxyAreku]

He should be able to keep à group alive alone if the derp co-heal die

They usually can't, though.

In actual raid content anyway, excluding fights like A5S where the heal check is ridiculously low.

[Gallus]

You have defensive CDs eh? Many in fact... Let's go over them fast:

Virus, Eye for an Eye, Rouse, Emergency Tactics and Deployment Tactics (these 2 are situational I know, but they are Defensive CDs). Then if you get to play with EOS, you have Fey illumination which is a party convalescence, fey covenant and whispering dawn.

Rotate the above properly and in 90% of the content you don't even need to switch off your cleric stance.

What's more, I think you underestimate the DPS of a good SCH player. You have 4 DOTs (Bio II, Miasma, Bio and Aero), one ground area of effect (Shadow Flare), 3 150 potency Energy Drains every minute and a spammable 170 potency spell, and what's worse, your DPS is infinite, as you generate more mana than the one you spend (not many jobs can brag about this...).
You compare the DPS of a WAR with the one of a SCH. Yes, WAR's higher, but only on single target, on AOE a WAR can't even dream to get close from what a SCH can dish out on area, and a WAR runs out of TP.

As for changing ET for a 20 potency regen (20 potency regen...would this even have any effect?) and a 5% damage mitigator, I don't know, I guess you could do it, but with all due respect, I think it would change the SCH little to none (I actually prefer myself the ability to turn my succor into medica whenever I need it).

If you nerf SCH heals and buff their DPS (atm I believe you can dish out around 65% of the damage of a DPS class in single target and 80% maybe even a bit more in AOE), you will make their "Only I can do this" even more dramatic than it already is... and my opinion is that they would become so so mandatory that they'd end up reworked (that or entirely useless because SE suddenly makes healing checks harsher and you need two real heals). I personally don't want that kind of state for my job... I think it's pretty bad already.

If SE were to do something about the SCH class, I'm like 99% sure they'll nerf their DPS potential and slightly buff their heals. The other way around? Highly unlikely. SCH is too irreplaceable atm and last thing SE's going to make is buff the part that makes it irreplaceable.