Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[TankHunter678]

So its my first time tanking Stone Vigil, and I make sure to let the party know that.

Very quickly into the run we lose one of our DPS, well he gets insta replaced by a monk so no big deal.

Over the course of the run we wipe a few times, each time due to me pulling more then I expected, things wandering over, or things spawning and joining the fray. Our LB gets reset a few times cause spike lag into DC combo, but I keep getting back in. The bosses go fine, up till the last boss.

2nd flyby phase of the boss, throwing down all the ice sheats and strafing. The healer gets hit by a strafe, forced into ice sheats, and when trying to get out of the ice field gets hit by a 2nd strafe. Healer is fine, healer is healing through it.

The boss lands on top of us sending the healer back into the ice sheats and instantly does its ice breath before I can rotate it away from the healer. Healer goes down.

I try to tank for as long as possible and go down. I figure its a wipe so I release for the next attempt as does the healer.

Bard goes down, releases.

On the way back to the boss room I notice that the LB bar emptied and was recharging. I asked who used the LB and I was told the monk had it.

Me and the healer get to the lockout wall in time to see that the monk somehow managed to get the boss down to 1% HP. We were cheering him on watching as the sliver of the bar get to where there is no bar at all, and just before it was about to update to go to 0% the dragon gets the last hit it needs on the monk.

Less than a percent of health left, the monk almost did it.

So we had to do the boss over again, we did it better this time with better placement on the ice sheats so that no one had to take strafes and we took the boss down with no trouble this time.

[Selli]

Just had one of the worst Mentor Roulettes of my life.

Got Sastasha. We got the new player bonus and the MRD seemed uncertain about leading, so I assumed it was him. The THM kept running ahead and pulling extra things, usually leading to me needing to drop Cleric and help Eos out. It was only really a problem before the first boss with all the clams because the MRD, ACN, and myself would be attacking one thing and the THM was off by himself almost dying. Until, you know, I went over to heal him and I got aggro on literally everything. So I asked the THM nicely to stop pulling things.

The two of them are together, I guess, because after the first boss the two of them decided to pull everything in that area with all the side rooms. Usually 3+ groups at a time. At one point they left the ACN and myself with three things beating on us, so we stopped chasing the MRD and THM and decided to kill the mobs we had on us. Sure enough, the THM and MRD come running at us with another 9 enemies and low HP. So Eos, the ACN, and myself, are all spamming heals until the LB fills and the THM uses it.

And this goes on. For the rest of the dungeon. The tank pulls, THM pulls more, and the ACN, Eos, and I end up spamming heals, LB fills, THM uses it, rinse and repeat.

Both the THM and the MRD got the exploring achievement, but guessing by how well the THM knew the map and his troll-like name, I assume he was an alt. But I think the tank might have been legitimately new.

When the dungeon ends, I commend the ACN and thank him for being pleasant company and gtfo as fast as I can. One of the worst experiences I've ever had in a Mentor Roulette.

[Fluestergras]

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Sometimes I think you have a magnet that attracts shitty players in your ass So sorry for you.

[KaijinRhada]

Today I got into a 1/3 Antitower as a MNK for my Ex roulette, and the first messages I see from the BLM and WHM was telling the PLD they need to flash more. Tank said sorry and moved on, but apparently they did not take the advice to heart as they flashed around 1-2 times per pull. They got angry at me pulling aggro on the second boss (even through target switches), as I ended up tanking it for the last 30%. I checked their gear and it wasn't that great, so I think to myself I'll dial back a bit.

Well the next pull, everything was beating on everyone, to which I just decide to go back to my AoE rotation. I tell the tank that they need to flash more over the next few pulls before the last boss, especially given they're with 2 DPS that can AoE very well, and a WHM that does make use of holy (hell, the WHM was pulling healing aggro when they weren't Holying, even with Saints popped). Their response was, "I don't like flashing a lot, it's too much mana." My face: (*_*). The rest of us were befuddled, and I told them that there's no reason you shouldn't flash, because what else are you even using mana for in and Ex dungeon. We get to the last boss, the BLM announced they will LB pull, and the tank locked themselves out on purpose, said they were leaving, and left. We died, but we facepalmed hard at the PLD.

Unfortunately I never got to see the end of the run, as I told the group I would requeue as a tank, but it filled before I made the change. In the end, I ended up running another Antitower with success.

[Selli]

Sometimes I think you have a magnet that attracts shitty players in your ass So sorry for you.

Wouldn't it not work if it was stuck in my butt and I'm sitting on it? XD

It might be on my forehead. That might explain why sometimes I don't get up after headdesk-ing.

I appreciate the sympathy. ^.^ DF is really hit or miss and I don't think that'll ever change. Just gotta grin and bear it!

I did have a really good run a couple days ago. I got Levi EX for my Mentor Roulette (one of the healers had left/been vote kicked as it was only 5min into the run) and both the tanks were greenies. I was kind of worried, since Levi is a pretty miserable fight. But one of out DPS was on point with hitting the converter, the tanks tanked flawlessly, 3 DPS died and the other healer, but I saced myself to get him up and the 4 of them managed to get the last 10%. No pony for them, though. Unfortunately. :c

[Miste]

Healers that don't care about their enmity seem to be getting progressively worse lately.

Usually it is manageable but had this one A8 run...most know what I mean; Brute Justice lands for the last phase and getting hate here can be annoying.

Boyfriend and I queue as double tank. Party is kinda....well lets just say one of the adds exploded but eh we worked passed that. So we tank with no issues until Brute Justice shows up. Just before he shows up the AST uses Collective Unconscious on everyone that is standing waiting.....well this sucks don't it?

So now all 8 members of the party have about a 1500-1600 HP per tick heal over time on them when Brute joins the fray. So I am sure you all know what happens here. AST and some other party members take Rocket Punch to the face and die. I wasn't MTing, but boyfriend used Provoke and flash and tried to build a halone combo to try to get hate but he couldn't get it.

So we wipe and I tell the healer not to use such a powerful heal when Brute is coming; one cast of a Medica II or Aspected Helios (in Diurnal) isn't fun but its manageable in most fights (usually). Collective Unconscious though is the strongest HoT in the game, besides Regen, but you hit all 8 members with it simultaneously; its insane enmity.

So this AST, instead of realizing they overhealed and Collective definitely was not needed at that point (it doesn't even really hit hard when Brute lands anyway), proceeds to start complaining that it is the tanks fault. Well, that's my boyfriend you are trying to blame and you're wrong so I stood up for him of course. I didn't even say anything rude just basically said don't use too much healing there, but here comes the defensive pass the blame to someone else game. Conversation went like this...

Me: please don't use such powerful healing when Brute lands, makes it so tank can't get hate.
AST: Tanks fault, you have provoke for a reason so use it.
Me: He did use it
BF: I did lol
Me: You don't realize the strength of Collective Unconscious. It's 1500-1600 HP tick on 8 people.
(Here he goes to assume we don't understand how Provoke works which made me laugh, but we tanked flawlessly until this and did tank swap on Perpetual so idk why he thinks we don't know how it works. Not to mention its not the problem.)
AST: Need to provoke THEN use a hate move right away after it, provoke by itself does jackshit.
Me: we know that already
Me: There is a large gap where you cannot attack anything before Brute lands; so there is nothing to attack to prepare a high enmity combo on.

He shutup after that and next time we got to that point he used Aspected Helios instead. Which is still overkill but we obtained hate just fine. I just find it so ridiculous he understands how Provoke works yet doesn't realize it was pretty much his fault because it doesn't matter if the tank provokes and flashes/unleashes/overpowers the next 1500-1600 HP tick on EIGHT people (that's a 12000-12800 heal in total every server tick which likely goes off at least twice while tank is fighting to gain hate with around 2.5 second GCD and server tick is every 3 seconds) will make the boss go immediately back to the healer because the tank trying to get hate is only a tiny bit ahead of him in enmity due to his massive over healing. My Collective on my AST can even crit for 2300 HP its crazy.

That isn't to say its completely impossible to get hate if that happens; but its still silly to blame the tank when you totally overhealed like a madman right when a boss spawns. Even if the tank barely scrapes it off you before you die it was unnecessary to make it 10 times more difficult for them to do their job just because you massively overhealed.

I assure you if I did this on my healer I would not try to blame the tank for my own unnecessary overhealing. I'd blame myself for doing something unneeded and making the tank's life a pain in the ass. I have had to apologize in the past for making this mistake, so I definitely own up to it and not try to pass the blame off on someone else.

So if you accidentally do this just own up to it and not try to blame the tank please. I don't even play tank often but I really feel sorry for them lately from what I've seen while playing DPS jobs...or co-healer while I watch the WHM I'm paired with get completely wrecked by Hummelfaust cause they swiftcasted Medica II, then casted Medica I, then used Assize all within 5 seconds right when Hummelfaust landed. Ugh, so unnecessary.

[CuteWhisper]

Got Vault this morning as my roulette. Im SCH, got a DRK, SMN, BLM. I protect and addlo tank. And the tank died on the first pull proceed to tell me im the worst healer. I look at his gear, everything is in STR and he has level 45 gear on him... Not even level 50. I asked him why, he said: "I dont usually tank, I just want fast que besides this is a facerolling dungeon" im like greeeeeat... Let just say we never finished the dungeon.

[SpiritMuse]

Brute Justice overhealing shenanigans

Yeah this is so annoying. And it's not even necessary really because no raid-wide damage goes out for a few seconds at least. I usually tank this but sometimes it makes me want to queue as a healer just so I can avoid this happening.

[Nekotee]

And if that knew how to use his skill
He would have used luminiferous Aether that cancel all enmity generation as long as it's activéso you can pump out lots of heal for limited aggro

Heal babies are fun... must they must know that sometime dpsing make you generate a lot less aggro !
So as heal let your tank take damage he like that and built his hate in peace... then heal him

[Jib]

Stone Vigil normal(level 41), im levelling my scholar. When we start i see a familiar face - blue carbuncle !
We proceed ok, before first boss I ask if the player knew that he/she could progress to summoner or scholar. He could be new and not know i thought.
The player said " Oh yes Im a summoner already but I only get garuda at level 45" .. 0.0... i said "ok ^^" and went to kill boss.
Dungeon goes fine but when we get to last boss the player does change and puts Ifrit-egi on....

Im still new to ARC, scholar is my first but is there a reason to put carbuncle going ACN instead of ifrit being summoner? Or it really doesnt matter at early dungeons?
Anyway the dungeon was fine, nothing much to report, the player did do all mechanics well... i just found the situation "odd" and wondered if there was a reason behind this.