At this rate it'll take ages for me to 200-210 my relic.

[Gallus]

So recently just came back to this game because nostalgia...and because I love FF and this game is so beautiful. Started the HW relic quest and I've just hit a huge brick wall, the 200-210 step. It's 80 items...and each item costs a lot of tomes/alexander pieces etc. but the grind specifically isn't what is killing me, it's the fact that I'm completely unable to get them at a reasonably steady rate. If I go Gordias NM, queues can take somwhere from 5-15 minutes. If I try level 50 or 60 dungeons, same story...and trials are extremely slow unless you luck out with new players. So I see myself with this astrological number of items required for this next step, but the arguably long queues are completely walling me from completing this at a reasonable pace. No matter how many times I look into the PF, there's only people willing to buy/sell stuff, midas carries, bird farm or statics looking for specific jobs for their week clears. As much as I love this game I feel like I'm burning out again...
Is there any steady source of myths/esoterics or any way I'm missing I could steadily progress through this monstrous step without having to afk at least for half the time I play?

[Lemuria]

You've pretty much neatly outlined all of the reasons I will never get on the relic grind again. After grinding for a year (yes, one whole year) for Excalibur back in the day, relic grinds have been getting worse. The real nail in the coffin is how little all that effort counts for in the new relic progression. Yeah, no... fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Besides, it's not like the relics are anything more than shiny glamors at this point and there's no reason to believe that will ever change.

[Colt47]

OP, The relic grind is horrific and it's an extreme niche activity in the game to be frank. 99% of the community probably avoids it or just dabbles without any plans to complete it due to the horrible time sink it is.

[Adventica6]

Yeh I just got my sch 200 relic and was greeted with the really fun 210 relic part, they want me to grind 14 thousand estorics for half the materials, then if that wasn't enough they want me to grind 14 thousand poetics for the other half, if you do the math it works out to over a year if you play everyday, no glamour is worth that much time no matter how sparkly it looks.

Most people I talked to just stop at i200 relic because nobody wants to grind for a year running the same content especially me.

It also promotes toxicity in groups, I am not happy to be in a group with others when I have to run the same dungeon 1000 more times, for half the materials needed.

(i'm a healer and even with faster ques it will STILL take me 9-10 months at the very least)

[Kaurie]

Yeh I just got my sch 200 relic and was greeted with the really fun 210 relic part, they want me to grind 14 thousand estorics for half the materials, then if that wasn't enough they want me to grind 14 thousand poetics for the other half, if you do the math it works out to over a year if you play everyday, no glamour is worth that much time no matter how sparkly it looks.

If your math is to be believed, you get less than 38 esoterics and 38 poetics per day if you play every day. [14,000/365 = 38.35]

I am assuming you mean if you do your roulettes?
Expert: Esoterics (60) + Esoterics (80)
60: Esoterics (100) + Estoerics (30-60)
50 Esoterics (120) + Poetics (100) + Poetics (20-100)
Leveling: Esoterics (100)
Trial: Esoterics (60) + Poetics (0-20) + Esoterics (0-12)
Main Scenario: Esoterics (120) + Poetics (10)
Frontline: Esoterics (60) + Esoterics (20)

(Ranged values are due to depending which instance you get, for the below calculation, I used the middle value)

So that gives you ~771 esoterics and 180 poetics per day. That takes ~18 days for esoterics, and 77 days for Poetics.

That said, there are many many other ways to get your pieces and tomestones. Hunts and Beast Tribes are great ways to do this.

[LineageRazor]

The 200-210 phase of the relic was made deliberately difficult, because at the time it was added it was a means by which players could create a weapon every bit as powerful as the best endgame weapons (drops from Alexander Gordius Savage). It was felt that the relic process needed to be equivalently difficult in terms of time and patience, so as not to devalue the raid weapons.

Eventually, inevitably, the difficulty for this phase will be eased - possibly as early as next patch. Next patch, the 230-240 stage of the relic will be added, and it will very likely be just as brutal as the 200-210 phase. It's quite possible that SE will decide that the weapon doesn't need to have two brutal phases at once, and will ease the earlier one (i.e., the stage you're working on now).

Just remember, though, even if they do make it easier, something just as bad or worse will be waiting for you in the future. That's simply how the relic upgrade process works.

[KrenianKandos]

Unfortunately, there isn't much else you can do. Here are your options:

1) Eso and Poe tomes - This can really be acquired by doing any of the runs that drop that including your roulettes. About it.
2) Maps - Some maps have a chance to drop an item that you need
3) Beast Quests - The level 50 Beast Quests offer a token per daily hand-in, per beast hub. You need 13 of the items to trade in for one item from each of the beast traders. (Four Beast Hubs, one in each hub). The level 50-60 beast quests (Vanu and the bug people, name eludes me again.) drop a similar token, but you need 18 to get one of the four items (Both beast hubs there have all four you can trade in for that token.)

That's about the ones I know about. Otherwise, it's a slow slog of a grind. Good luck. I did mine and I only did one of them because this phase scares me on how long it took.

[Laurima]

there are so many avenues to get the items this is silly tbh

do beast tribes, they all give tokens to pick up certain relic items

do Crystal tower weekly on reset day to grab Poetics and the mission quest for the 210-230 Aether oil step, do daily roulettes,

you've probably missed the 'bonus carry' buzz runs on Coil.

Do you hunt? A ranks and S ranks are well worth the effort, you can buy relic items with Allied seals, Poetics, beast tribe tokens, Esoterics, they randomly drop from wyvernskin and Dragonskin maps too sometimes.

[NaesakiAshwell]

Just so you know you can get the unidentified's with the beastmen coins.

ARR Beastmen all sell a specific one for 13 of their coins each.
Sahagin - Shells
Kobolds - Ore
Amaljaa - Bones
Sylph - Seeds

The HW Beastmen each sell them all but they are 18 coins each.

You can also get the bones and seeds with allied seals at 1000 each.

And a chance to get any of them from treasure maps.

There are plenty of avenues outside of purely tome and gordias farm.

[Maero]

Well just take your time, Relic for most jobs (not all mind you) is mainly just glam atm.
I completed my first Relic just by doing Roulettes and Beast Tribes and just regular dungeon runs as well for the final push.
If one was just to focus on running Alex however, it will take ages