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  1. #3281
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by revonine View Post
    Too many trying to be impartial here. Who cares about the damn padlock. No player "nub" or otherwise should be spoken too in such a manner. I hope you reported them for harassment and for use of third party software.
    This right here. It would have taken them half the time to just explain that melee also do padlock. There's no excuse for those comments. I hope you reported him, Evangela.
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  2. #3282
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I reported him before I post here.

    Actually, I know that melee can attack the padlock. It's just that we don't need everyone to do that. We had two BLMs in the team so I chose to focus on the two little adds and then move to the boss, didn't realize that the other DPSs forgot about the padlock and the guy in there was killed.
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  3. #3283
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Aru Tirauland
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    These crossclass skills...
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  4. #3284
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    raela's Avatar
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I reported him before I post here.

    Actually, I know that melee can attack the padlock. It's just that we don't need everyone to do that. We had two BLMs in the team so I chose to focus on the two little adds and then move to the boss, didn't realize that the other DPSs forgot about the padlock and the guy in there was killed.
    Yes, he was a jerk and hopefully got punished. But the chance of people forgetting the padlock (or just not wanting to touch it for varying reasons) is why you should always go help anyway. Never assume someone in DF will do mechanics - you'll only be disappointed.

    If you are worried about your DPS, I would recommend checking the ninja thread in the DPS forums for recommended rotation, and trying SSS in the hinterlands to see if you're meeting the SE recommended levels for the content you do.
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  5. #3285
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    Iifa's Avatar
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    Ai Shiki
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 39
    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    this is correct. you should still use for the 5% damage buff of this short CD
    OH! The guide I read said that it's not worth it on AoE sitchs. I did forget about the 5% buff. I'll use it then! Thank you! =)
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  6. #3286
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    Hyomin Park
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    I met the second nice mentor I'd ever met since the system rolled out last night in Expert Roulette. Lost City HM: I'm BRD, friend is WHM, tank is a DRK, and mentor is a MNK.

    This tank was what I like to call one of "those dark Knights"; i.e., never turned on Darkside except maybe once. It always irks me to see DRKs not use Darkside because they lose access to their best abilities and most potent combo. Anyways, we kill the first group of the bettle and catipillar things after the first wall. He proceeds to pull gremlins and then all the way down to the second wall. Well he gets squished. Hard. Mostly because facetanking and he failed to aggro all of them so the ones that he didn't flocked to my friend the minute she healed him. We wipe. Tank is like "Lol guess that was too much for you" and the mentor responded with a comment about how the tank failed to use cooldowns, which was true.

    Anyways, we restart and go slower. Things are going well (minus the still no Darkside). We get to the pulls with the mana pots, and the mentor tries to give him some advice because both he and I are pulling hate from the tank (idk how I was--I'm a freaking BRD, and yes, I was attacking the targets he was attacking). The tank was complaining about us pulling from him, so the mentor and I were tell him things that would help--like using Darkside, and I mentioned doing a Blood Price-Unleash spam because that's what I do when I pull and I rarely lose hate after that. Mentor also said dropping Grit after gaining enough aggro increases damage output for drks, therefore more aggro while still helping with the overall DPS. Tank mentions something about MP management (ugh) and both monk and I tell him he can use Blood Weapon while not in Grit, and also a non-DA Carve and Spit to recover MP (along with the Syphon Strike combo). We reach the final boss, tank takes our advice, didn't lose hate, and we cleared it perfectly! However he ran out of the dungeon so fast I'd barely opened the last coffer so I guess he didn't appreciate our advice that much, but... :/ We weren't being mean about it. Just trying to help him be a better DRK and use all the utilities the job has to offer. And the MNK even sacrificed his GL stacks to help out too! ;-;

    I just don't like drks that won't use Darkside. Especially if they say it's because of the MP management since the job gives you tools to use to keep up MP. Yeah it takes getting used to and I hate it when I sync down below 35 because Blood Price is my best friend but. ;-;

    But it was a good run. And kudos to you, MNK mentor!
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-20-2016 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Limits

  7. #3287
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Aru Tirauland
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iifa View Post
    OH! The guide I read said that it's not worth it on AoE sitchs. I did forget about the 5% buff. I'll use it then! Thank you! =)
    During AOE, it's indeed a DPS loss to keep Enochian up by casting Blizz4, but it's also a DPS loss not to use it at all because of the 5% buff as randysquirrel correctly stated
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  8. #3288
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    Cnidarian's Avatar
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluestergras View Post
    During AOE, it's indeed a DPS loss to keep Enochian up by casting Blizz4, but it's also a DPS loss not to use it at all because of the 5% buff as randysquirrel correctly stated
    The thing to keep in mind for this is where you are in the dungeon. If you are cleaning up the last pull (or mobs are almost dead from a giant pull) before a boss encounter, it's better to sit on Enochian. This allows you to be ready for the boss enounter instead of either forcing the group to wait (granted it's a short amount of time) or going into the battle without a fresh use of Enochian. You would be surprised how many times I've seen BLM not have Enochian available for their opener because they didn't plan ahead. In fact, I'm guilty of this with convert as sometimes groups move faster than the average ones I get in DF.
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  9. #3289
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Aru Tirauland
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
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    True, I never use Enochian for the last trash pack before the boss unless I know it'll take more than a minute to kill it, so I have it available for the boss itself. About Convert, I used to mess up with its cooldown a lot Now I use it at the first pack of a dungeon or the first pack after a boss unless I know we'll reach the next boss in less than three minutes (which happens a lot when running content with my BLM friend. Double Flare ftw).
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  10. #3290
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluestergras View Post
    True, I never use Enochian for the last trash pack before the boss unless I know it'll take more than a minute to kill it, so I have it available for the boss itself. About Convert, I used to mess up with its cooldown a lot Now I use it at the first pack of a dungeon or the first pack after a boss unless I know we'll reach the next boss in less than three minutes (which happens a lot when running content with my BLM friend. Double Flare ftw).
    Same, but I've found that with some party comps, it's a waste to use it on the first pack as they are about to die by the time you want to double flare. In an average run, you can still use it on the second pull as well to have it for the boss, but when you just melt the mobs, you sometimes end up getting to the boss with it on cooldown and the tank already pulled (cooldown is just short enough too that by the time you get to it in your opener it still has 3-5 seconds left T.T).
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