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  1. #261
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Yeah, let's keep copy-pasting them. Let me not ask for a mage. Again, love this community, asking for some variation yet being unable to think of something different. Also, and just for the record, mages don't need to wear long robes, and a mage's shield can literally shit on a heavy plate armor any day of the week. So please.
    Yeah, the are called Dragonborn's and they go Fus > Ro > Dah as their basic rotation.
    This is FFXIV. Welcome back.
    asking for some variation yet being unable to think of something different
    That's you lol, not me. You ask for variation, but you are unable to think of something that would fit Tank role.
    You act like a spoiled little princess that want a puppy and listens to no one.
    Tank is a tank in a world of FF. Heavy armor and Heavy hitting weapon. No whips, handbags or paper fans.

    There is no logical explanation why mage would take dmg on himself and call it a day.
    While we play illogical game, the lore is logical, as well as cutscenes and world inside FF.
    During cutscenes Things die by single arrows, and this kind of "lore reality" inside the game should be kept.

    For the sake of the plot.
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  2. #262
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    More like heavy armor and a butter knife if you ask me.
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  3. #263
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Looks like not only I remember 2.0 and PLD glorious knives as main arms. thnx god ninja dragon entrance made SE fix that.

    Now swords look solid. And they are out of steel or this steel-covered-wood-cored type of weapons.

    But still better love story than whips or whatever-rdm-is-gonna-use-as-main-arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post

    Coming back to the primary topic, BLU will be no different. It won't have the Learn ability like how you remember it from whatever "good ol' days" FF game you sleep at night with. It won't have that grand encyclopedia of every trainable monster skill at its disposal. It will however be something inspired by all those past FF games and brought in so that it's fun and appealing while still being balanced and fitting properly within the confines of this game. And that's a good thing.
    aka butchered i guess.
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  5. #265
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    You ask for variation, but you are unable to think of something that would fit Tank role.
    Wut.
    /10char
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Only if his pet is doing as much work as the other dps. If the summoner's whole job revolved around controlling his summon, then that's what he'd have to be doing. There would be no more Sic or Obey. Every single skill the summon does would have to be directly commanded by the Summoner. It wouldn't perform any skills on its own, and its only AI would be to follow its summoner unless told otherwise. For the player, controlling the summon's skills would replace controlling the summoner's ones.
    Ok, do these have cast times? If not my point still stands. Full movement, which I'm sure the Bards in your party will certainly appreciate, will guarantee safety. If they do have cast times then that opens a whole other can of worms. The delay between pet commands is already a sticky issue and you want to do an entire rotation through it?

    If it gets hit, does it take full damage or more of a system we have now where they take minimised damage? If they take full damage then good luck keeping a summon out for more that 5 seconds on fights like Midgardsormr, Odin or Sephirot with your Dps being awful or just generally being a micromanagement nightmare. If it's more of a system we have now then the summoner is still 80% safe at the back of the party.
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    Last edited by Razard; 05-14-2016 at 07:50 AM.

  7. #267
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Wut.
    /10char
    Sorry, i don't speak pokemon.

    If you wanted to know what i mean in this line, i mean wizard do not fit tank role if FF world by default. I am not sure how to simplify simple sentence... So, sorry about that.
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  8. #268
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Wut.
    /10char
    Yeah suggest a disciple of magic for tank such as red mage. You know jack of all trades aka roles and people scream blasphemy. Kinda hilarious. They want change but aren't willing to embrace it.
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  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Yeah suggest a disciple of magic for tank such as red mage. You know jack of all trades aka roles and people scream blasphemy. Kinda hilarious. They want change but aren't willing to embrace it.
    Well. According to you any kind of change at all is blasphemy. Personally I adore the idea of red mage as a tank, but people will find a reason to complain, the same way people complain about dark knight being a tank, despite the fact it's always been tanky.
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  10. #270
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    Sorry, i don't speak pokemon.

    If you wanted to know what i mean in this line, i mean wizard do not fit tank role if FF world by default. I am not sure how to simplify simple sentence... So, sorry about that.
    DRK does. Because reasons. Oh, come on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well. According to you any kind of change at all is blasphemy. Personally I adore the idea of red mage as a tank, but people will find a reason to complain, the same way people complain about dark knight being a tank, despite the fact it's always been tanky.
    Except it hasn't. Jesus, how can anybody call something tanky when it revolves around sacrificing HP to deal even more damage? Just because it used armor not unlike DRG? My, my. Always been tanky.
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