30 Minute Lockout for Leaving Roulette's isn't Working as Intended.

[Jatoi]

Thank you for this thread because the amalgamation of terrible ideas like yours and many posters here made me smile.

It makes for a great read.

[Sicno]

Thank you for this thread because the amalgamation of terrible ideas like yours and many posters here made me smile.

It makes for a great read.

Oh, I bet YOUR ideas may be fascinating then. I'm all ears.

[Canadane]

So if some troll is making the run miserable, I take a penalty for it if I kick them?

I'm sorry, but that's absolutely ludicrous.

You already do. You can only vote kick once every 4 hours.

[Cnidarian]

You already do. You can only vote kick once every 4 hours.

The amount of times I have needed to use the Vote Kick feature is so large that I've never once had this be an issue. In fact, I didn't even know about this limitation until this thread was made.

(Obligatory statement stating that the use of the word large in the previous sentence is sarcasm)

[Dorander]

Yes, maybe it will increase queuing time, but at least, it will ensure that when the party go into the duty, everyone will stay.

As it's been said before: Duty Finder would become an absolute ghost town. Nobody would queue up for anything, except a very small percentage. Everyone else, would jump in with FC mates/friends. Tanks would probably have 30 minute waits, heals - about the same, and DPS? They'd get to do about one dungeon a day.. if they stayed logged in for hours waiting. So, yes let's implement what you suggest. You'll be back on the forums complaining that premades should get less rewards, that people can only premade once a day, ect.. Further killing the the game and making people unsub.

I don't think you can reasonably claim being held "hostage" in a situation you willingly signed yourself up for. Next you're telling us your electricity provider is a bandit because he demands you to fulfill your part of the contract and pay and wants to enforce that via law >_>

If I'm under penalty of a 12 - 36 hour ban from DF for leaving due to A: the group is bad., B: the dungeon sucks., C:if I just feel like it.. Yes, I'm being held hostage by an unreasonable punishment. So, most wouldn't DF dungeons. They'd premade just so they wouldn't have to deal with randoms. That's why 30 minutes is acceptable. I can still go do something else and stay logged in playing the game. If I'm locked out of doing anything with dungeons for whole half day (or longer), I might as well log out. That's how you kill subs and FFXIV would fail as a game.

As for you example about an electric company - here's another one: This is what you are proposing using the same analogy: If you miss a bill payment, the electric company come into your home and shoots you in the knee. Miss another payment, they shoot you in the other knee. The law would be on their side, since it's in your contract. People would stop using that electric company real quick, and that electric company would either change it's policy or fail.

So really, you all need to think further than the end of your own butt-hurt noses. So what, someone left, you can also leave and requeue without consequence, or wait for a someone to fill the slot. Big deal. At most you are out an extra 15 minutes and that's if you are playing a dps, because rarely does it take longer than that to get into a dungeon.

[Zojha]

If I'm under penalty of a 12 - 36 hour ban from DF for leaving due to A: the group is bad., B: the dungeon sucks., C:if I just feel like it.. Yes, I'm being held hostage by an unreasonable punishment.

No, no you aren't. And with those reasons, you simply do not deserve any sympathy. The only people who deserve sympathy are those who have to leave due to an RL emergency or "leave" due to other factors out of their control. Those need to be protected and those are the reason why the penalty can't be all too harsh. But this? Seriously?

Frankly, one cannot support the suggestion of this thread any better than you just do. The fact that you consider completely frivolous reasons as valid reasons for leaving is a clear sign the lockout is not working as intended. And you even state why: Because it's completely inconsequential.

Bravo.

[Jatoi]

Oh, I bet YOUR ideas may be fascinating then. I'm all ears.

My idea is: Don't fix what isn't broken. Devs seem to be likeminded because one posted with the following reasons as to why the penalty exists:

Users abandoning a duty continuously while trying to get placed into a specific duty
Users leaving a duty because of emergency situations that arose outside of the game



Then again, I am conscientious-enough to consider emergency situations actually exist.

[Reynhart]

As it's been said before: Duty Finder would become an absolute ghost town. Nobody would queue up for anything, except a very small percentage.

Except all who don't care about whatever duty they end up with...which is, luckily, the majority of the people. So, actually, no, it won't change much.

A: the group is bad.

Go in premade

B: the dungeon sucks.

Don't queue for a roulette

So really, you all need to think further than the end of your own butt-hurt noses.

Says the one who admit several times that he doesn't give a f*** about others, nice.

[Sicno]

My idea is: Don't fix what isn't broken. Devs seem to be likeminded because one posted with the following reasons as to why the penalty exists:

Users abandoning a duty continuously while trying to get placed into a specific duty
Users leaving a duty because of emergency situations that arose outside of the game

Yeah, that's true about what to do with those abandoning a duty, but what to do with those being abandoned? Do you think there's nothing to fix there?



I think I've given a couple of ideas regarding what to do to help the people being abandoned, but apparently they're part of the "amalgamation of terrible ideas like yours and many posters here" according to you.

[Jatoi]

Yeah, that's true about what to do with those abandoning a duty, but what to do with those being abandoned? Do you think there's nothing to fix there?



I think I've given a couple of ideas regarding what to do to help the people being abandoned, but apparently they're part of the "amalgamation of terrible ideas like yours and many posters here" according to you.

I like how you think "many" is "all". The people left behind either wait or abandon, everyone's been on the receiving end at least once. It's mainly an issue when it's a healer or tank that bails because DPS are more disposable due to how common they are- and that's another problem in itself. I was addressing the overly-aggressive punishments people want to instill on those who have to leave.

I think you seriously need help with a few things when it comes to reading ( as apparently with my corrections, I need help with my typos ).