Low level tanks (pre-tank stance) have a very hard time holding threat after the nerf

[Granyala]

With "inconsiderate" DDs (or healers), it can be hell on a tank still trying to figure out what to do. The lowered dps output doesn't help. Impossible? No. More difficult? Yes, though experienced tanks probably won't notice that much of a difference (if any).

I absolutely agree. Hey I did level a pally so I felt the pain associated with it. Now imagine leveling a WAR and not even having taunt. :X

I230 DDs can rip the threat of my I200 DRK easily if they tunnel too. Equipment plays a HUGE role in aggro generation. Imho too much, given how often you have really really shitty gear when leveling.

That bein said: I am absolutely merciless when I play AST. Cleric -> DOT on all mobs -> continued damage on the focus target with healing through cleric as needed.

In 75% of all cases: I tank all the mobs (including the focus target). Sorry, but that is unacceptable.
Tanks have to learn to use enough flash to counter 1 ticking DoT + healing aggro. That's not hard to do.

[SpookyGhost]

continued damage on the focus target with healing through cleric as needed.

Not sure if I'm just reading this wrong or not, but in case I am: You can turn off Cleric, heal, then turn it back on as turning it off doesn't have a CD. Healing in Cleric unnecessarily wastes healing potency and potentially a GCD (or more) you could've used on damaging spells. Sometimes Cleric can be finicky but it's always worth at least attempting to turn it off.

Also, on the topic of the skill floor for all the roles: Tanks > Heals > DPS.

The higher level you get, the more things change. Eventually it basically ends up as: Heals > Tanks = DPS.

That said, for the skill floor at least, all of them are easy and one is only slightly more difficult than the others. Things simply don't hit hard enough for it to matter if you hold aggro or not, so most of your actual responsibility is thrown out the window. It's only til... Haukke I guess? that things start hitting a little harder. So essentially everything is even unless you're actually bothering to do your job as a tank.

[Granyala]

Not sure if I'm just reading this wrong or not, but in case I am: You can turn off Cleric, heal, then turn it back on as turning it off doesn't have a CD. Healing in Cleric unnecessarily wastes healing potency and potentially a GCD (or more) you could've used on damaging spells. Sometimes Cleric can be finicky but it's always worth at least attempting to turn it off.

In low level, cleric doesn't do much.
Stance dancing only becomes interesting if a) damage gets heavy b) MND and INT are further apart (I'd guess lv 35+?).
For the most part it's easier to just toss an occasional heal with cleric on to the tank and continue DPSing.

Unless you have one of them weird ones that take damage like 3 40t trucks rolling back and forth over their bodies. Oo

[SpookyGhost]

In low level, cleric doesn't do much.

I assumed you were referring to max level content since you were talking about i200/i230 in the previous sentence, but if we're talking about low level then yeah Cleric won't neuter your heals as much. Though it is only 1 extra button, but *shrug*

[Granyala]

I assumed you were referring to max level content since you were talking about i200/i230 in the previous sentence, but if we're talking about low level then yeah Cleric won't neuter your heals as much. Though it is only 1 extra button, but *shrug*

Yeah, not stance dancing in max level = gibbed party.

In low level, tank damage tends to be difficult to predict, so I usually heal when he drops below 66% for an additional safety margin if he takes spike damage.
No need do leave cleric for that.