Scholars party bonus switch to MIND (Live letter feedback)

[Sento-Frost]

Q: Full parties that feature a scholar and astrologian don’t have a MND party bonus so there are times where there’s added difficulty in healing. Do you have plans to change the party bonus for scholar or astrologian?

A: It’s not difficult to change this; however, by changing this, we worry that some may think of this as a nerf. Our view on this is that we should make the party bonus effective no matter what kind of healer combination is used, but we would like to hear from the players to see if it would be alright to remove PIE bonus, so please let us know on the forums. We would like to consider changing this.

Yes please, Piety is of no use to a scholar...
And in general, all healers should give the same bonuses to avoid discrimination in raids.

Edit: Suggestion from LDR is very nice : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3640568

1 Healer in party regardless of class/job - MND bonus is active
2 Healers in party regardless of class/jobs - MND and PIE bonus is active

if SE determined thats to simple and there needs to be a technicality deter double stacking of class/jobs then;

2 Healers in party of the same class/job - MND bonus only
2 Healers in party of different class/jobs regardless of which class/jobs - MND and PIE bonus active

any composition is now viable bonus wise for raid duties but your still encouraged to bring 2 different healer types.
the more lax 4-man duty environment now gets the MND bonus uniformally

alternatively they could leave it as is for 4-man duties and only implement the change to 8-man's, but im not sure how technical it would be to implement that/viable

[FeliAiko]

There's no point in removing it, when there's the option of having both available regardless of healer comp. Also BLMs benefit from the PIE bonus as it allows them to reach the MP threshold needed for their optimal rotation.

[Sento-Frost]

Yeah OK, but today people don't want AST/SCH composition because only WHM gives mind.
Well give both bonuses to a lower level maybe, but allow us to stop the discrimination and make all healers equal ^^

[Nekotee]

Piety is useless to the AST as well so give them mind !
People who refuse an AST to a whm are doing a big mistake since the ast is far better XD

[Werhusky]

BLMs love piety bonus tho :O

[Sento-Frost]

Yeah I understand that, but even if it's a party bonus, it should not hinder healing or cause discrimination between the classes :/
You don't always have a black mage in your team, you most certainly always have 2 healers and not always a WHM (well, I'd like to be able to not have a WHM to get that bonus).

Yeah I agree Nekotee ^^

[Shurrikhan]

2 Piety healers = 1 bonus gets automatically switched to Mind? I really don't see what would have been wrong with that approach...

Guess I'll take my AST for any Ex roulettes with a BLM friend now? Eh, probably should have been anyways.

[StouterTaru]

BLMs benefit from the PIE bonus as it allows them to reach the MP threshold needed for their optimal rotation.

Optimal isn't really the best way to describe it. It's a dps decrease unless all of the following occur:

• There are no mechanics at all; straight turret mode
• It's a single target for the entire fight
• You are perfectly lined up with server MP ticks
• You have a high amount of Spell Speed

[LDR]

Or they could just,

1 Healer in party regardless of class/job - MND bonus is active
2 Healers in party regardless of class/jobs - MND and PIE bonus is active

if SE determined thats to simple and there needs to be a technicality deter double stacking of class/jobs then;

2 Healers in party of the same class/job - MND bonus only
2 Healers in party of different class/jobs regardless of which class/jobs - MND and PIE bonus active

any composition is now viable bonus wise for raid duties but your still encouraged to bring 2 different healer types.
the more lax 4-man duty environment now gets the MND bonus uniformally

alternatively they could leave it as is for 4-man duties and only implement the change to 8-man's, but im not sure how technical it would be to implement that/viable

[Sento-Frost]

That's a good option LDR indeed.
And it'd continue to incentive having different classes, which iirc was the objective of the team bonus.