Low level tanks (pre-tank stance) have a very hard time holding threat after the nerf

[Slappah]

Surely you are joking, right?

You can't seriously think it's not a problem that the overwhelming majority of game content (which is before levels 40, by the way) and where the new players to the game spend their time, are negatively impacted by the change.

I mean, do you really think it's a good idea to make the game frustrating for new players, who might just say, "Screw FFXIV, if it's going to be poorly balanced like this".

Actually you could be the kind of person that doesn't care about any players outside your own experience. But the rest of us actually want people to play the game so we have more people to play with.

Overwhelming majority of the content? Lmfao

There's 12 dungeons 15-49

Theres 29 dungeons 50-60

There's only 9 dungeons 40 and under

There's 4 trials under 50

Meanwhile there's no raids under 50
But there's bcob, scob, scob savage, fcob, gordias, gordias Savage, midas, midas savage, lota, st, WoD and va for 50-60
12 raids, which translates into 37 different instances just in raids alone

Not to mention the 31 trials 50-60

So...what was that about overwhelming majority of the games content being 40 and under?

Edit actually it's 31 dungeons forgot about castrum and prae

[therpgfanatic]

Overwhelming majority of the content? Lmfao


So...what was that about overwhelming majority of the games content being 40 and under?

You seem to have forgotten all the quests and FATEs a player has to do in order to get high enough to even do dungeons, many of which unlock as part of the story mode quests. And many of these quests are done mandatory solo.

[Slappah]

You seem to have forgotten all the quests and FATEs a player has to do in order to get high enough to even do dungeons, many of which unlock as part of the story mode quests. And many of these quests are done mandatory solo.

Yeah..solo...

Which has literally nothing to do with "tanks having emnity issues"

Also level 15 isn't hardly anything

Msq is msq, solo content, has nothing to do with this thread

And if you want to bring fates into it, there's 50-60 fates as well

There's a TON of 50 msq quests, then 50-60 side quests, 50-60 msq quests

60 msq quests

60 side quests

[therpgfanatic]

Yeah..solo...

Which has literally nothing to do with "tanks having emnity issues"

Ahem.

Sorry but game balance changes aren't concerned with not max lev content

I'd prefer it stays that way

The fact of the matter is low level stuff doesn't matter. They shouldn't make balance changes because low level tanks are having a hard time holding aggro.

You made the argument the tank issue doesn't matter because it only impacts low level, new tank players and those who end up with them in DF.

I retorted that the bulk of the game content is low level stuff and if the game is frustrating for low level new players, they may stop playing the game.

Now that you've lost your original argument because the facts do not support your point of view, how about stop trolling the thread instead of trying to insist you're correct?

[Slappah]

Ahem.



You made the argument the tank issue doesn't matter because it only impacts low level, new tank players and those who end up with them in DF.

I retorted that the bulk of the game content is low level stuff and if the game is frustrating for low level new players, they may stop playing the game.

Now that you've lost your original argument because the facts do not support your point of view, how about stop trolling the thread instead of trying to insist you're correct?

I'm not trolling

And I stand by what I said

Low level doesn't matter because in the grand scheme of things.

New updates to the game don't add new low level dungeons, they don't add new low level quests, they don't add balance changes to low level or even old irrelevant content

It adds new endgame content and or miscellaneous content like gold saucer, which has nothing to do with tanking obviously

The bulk of the game is NOT low level content

Some tanks could have emnity issues before the vit changes
Nothing has drastically changed

Before the change, if a geared dps got paired up with an unsynced tank without tank stance who's gear is even on par with the dungeon, they were very likely to pull hate

It's the same as it is now

The only difference is a tank might have to work a little harder to keep aggro

I stand by my other statement, they should not balance the game around low level content. If a new player quits the game because they couldn't keep aggro in a dungeon, I doubt they would've stayed to play the game anyway

You're seriously suggesting they revert a balance change that would drastically alter the end game balance for the sake of low level tanks having an easier time keeping hate

Well screw it call me a troll for saying that's just absolutely ridiculous