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  1. #111
    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Moxie Desu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Maybe if they made more dungeon outfits dyable and added more classes that could use a lot of them people would be much happier. However with all the teams and such they have; they are making EXCLUSIVE content to people of different regions. Even if it was another part of the company those resources could be used to work with the entire game instead. Which honestly; pisses a lot of people off.
    Didn't Yoshi say they cut down on man power? I could be completely wrong I have been gone for a long time.
    However exclusive don't bother me and yes I realize I don't count for anyone other than me. But it's just life, I'd prefer they make more meaningful and fun content outside of raids but eh.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Maybe if they made more dungeon outfits dyable and added more classes that could use a lot of them people would be much happier. However with all the teams and such they have; they are making EXCLUSIVE content to people of different regions. Even if it was another part of the company those resources could be used to work with the entire game instead. Which honestly; pisses a lot of people off.
    I have no idea what this statement even means. I'm sure you're well aware time and time again that this content is confirmed to come to Japan as a 711 promotion, while the western community will receive the same content later on in a different way since there aren't 711s all over the world in every region. Although it may be confirmed to be a 711 exclusive in Japan, doesn't mean the west won't get it. Also, marketing and design teams aren't the same people. They all have different jobs in each sector of the company. One section does not bog down the other, and the game designers are still working on new content. This event seems like a one off promotion that doesn't look like it'll impact other resources in the game.

    Also semicolons are used to link independent clauses that are in direct relation to what they're both talking about. They're not fancy commas to make yourself look smarter for using them. I'm sorry, I had to let that one out. It was killing me.
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  3. #113
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    One thing everyone needs to remember, Japan is the size of an island, doing Exclusives like this is easier for a country like Japan compared to the crap they might have to deal with setting it up in Europe or America. Consider the landmass that is America, how do you choose one store, is there a store that would work. . . Well shit, seems like 7-eleven is REALLY popular in Japan lol.


    Worldwide there are 58,389
    In Japan they make up 18,249

    From a business standpoint it's a no-brainer to use them but if you try to do the same in Europe and America, again there are issues and things to keep in mind. NA especially because it's not just Americans, but what of the Canadian players, they are different countries, follow different laws, so you have to find one for each sides that works in order to make it work.

    One thing that comes to mind is a Soda Company, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Mountain Dew, they could try to cross-promote with them but again the difference in the country size, trying to crosspromote an MMO in North America compared to Japan especially a Final fantasy title might be a bit hard to convince a corporation how it would be worth it in their country of origin. In Japan Final Fantasy is like a national treasure, so teaming up is easy, the land mass reduces the reach they need to make the campaign work and overall it is just easier.

    I know it sucks to have to wait to see how they plan to do it in NA or EU but ye know there are things like the fan festival that's half a year away and such if I"m not mistaken, so maybe they will do something with twitch to make it work. You know how they had Twitch "subscription" set at I think 20-25 and with it you got in-game items. Maybe SE will decide to have a crosspromote livestream with Youtube and Twitch, with Twitch having Side A items and Youtube having Side B items.

    Again it's just brainstorming, because the main thing to keep in mind is if/when they introduce an NA/EU way to obtain these items, they don't want to do it in a way that may have the Japanese players feel cheated or robbed of their money.

    Cause let's say the point system in the Japanese method is like 20 dollars ends up being used but then SE is just like, ok it's 5 dollars if you want the items. Japanese players would be irritated by that because they offered a cheaper option to other countries while they had to play a campaign game with 7-Eleven.
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  4. #114
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    Japan is the size of several islands, but yes, what you say is true. Japanese 7-11s aren't the same as the ones in other coutnries. They're huge, multi-level shopping centers.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Snip snip snip
    This person gets it. You deserve all my text love and affection. And a gif too, but I've posted so many of them today.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    One thing everyone needs to remember, Japan is the size of an island, doing Exclusives like this is easier for a country like Japan compared to the crap they might have to deal with setting it up in Europe or America. Consider the landmass that is America, how do you choose one store, is there a store that would work. . . Well shit, seems like 7-eleven is REALLY popular in Japan lol.


    Worldwide there are 58,389
    In Japan they make up 18,249

    From a business standpoint it's a no-brainer to use them but if you try to do the same in Europe and America, again there are issues and things to keep in mind. NA especially because it's not just Americans, but what of the Canadian players, they are different countries, follow different laws, so you have to find one for each sides that works in order to make it work.

    One thing that comes to mind is a Soda Company, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Mountain Dew, they could try to cross-promote with them but again the difference in the country size, trying to crosspromote an MMO in North America compared to Japan especially a Final fantasy title might be a bit hard to convince a corporation how it would be worth it in their country of origin. In Japan Final Fantasy is like a national treasure, so teaming up is easy, the land mass reduces the reach they need to make the campaign work and overall it is just easier.

    I know it sucks to have to wait to see how they plan to do it in NA or EU but ye know there are things like the fan festival that's half a year away and such if I"m not mistaken, so maybe they will do something with twitch to make it work. You know how they had Twitch "subscription" set at I think 20-25 and with it you got in-game items. Maybe SE will decide to have a crosspromote livestream with Youtube and Twitch, with Twitch having Side A items and Youtube having Side B items.

    Again it's just brainstorming, because the main thing to keep in mind is if/when they introduce an NA/EU way to obtain these items, they don't want to do it in a way that may have the Japanese players feel cheated or robbed of their money.

    Cause let's say the point system in the Japanese method is like 20 dollars ends up being used but then SE is just like, ok it's 5 dollars if you want the items. Japanese players would be irritated by that because they offered a cheaper option to other countries while they had to play a campaign game with 7-Eleven.
    I don't care. At least they get the option and we do not.

    I'd rather have something then nothing.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I don't care. At least they get the option and we do not.

    I'd rather have something then nothing.
    So you're basically complaining for the sake of complaining. Well I can't say I'm surprised. I'm sure plenty of people would do the same if they were bored.
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  8. #118
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    Since we all play together as one mega population (minus the servers), so this is a bit unfair for people not playing in EU/NA and vice versa. People can see the outfits/mount, as I know a few JP people play on some NA/EU servers. So they SHOULD make all regions. :/
    This is just my opinion however.
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  9. #119
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    as long they make the items available for everyone soon I don't care is JP gets them first. Even if that means paying via mogstation...

    I needs housemaid outfit!
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezelyn View Post
    Since we all play together as one mega population (minus the servers), so this is a bit unfair for people not playing in EU/NA and vice versa. People can see the outfits/mount, as I know a few JP people play on some NA/EU servers. So they SHOULD make all regions. :/
    This is just my opinion however.
    It's not that they don't care about NA/EU or other regions. Quite the opposite actually. A successful promotion in one hemisphere does not guarantee the promotion will succeed in another. You have to adapt your marketing strategy in order to make it successful. The team has concluded that cross promoting their product with 711 sales will be beneficial to earnings, which I'm going to have to agree as Airget made a lovely post about that store's popularity in Japan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    One thing everyone needs to remember, Japan is the size of an island, doing Exclusives like this is easier for a country like Japan compared to the crap they might have to deal with setting it up in Europe or America. Consider the landmass that is America, how do you choose one store, is there a store that would work. . . Well shit, seems like 7-eleven is REALLY popular in Japan lol.


    Worldwide there are 58,389
    In Japan they make up 18,249

    From a business standpoint it's a no-brainer to use them but if you try to do the same in Europe and America, again there are issues and things to keep in mind. NA especially because it's not just Americans, but what of the Canadian players, they are different countries, follow different laws, so you have to find one for each sides that works in order to make it work.

    One thing that comes to mind is a Soda Company, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Mountain Dew, they could try to cross-promote with them but again the difference in the country size, trying to crosspromote an MMO in North America compared to Japan especially a Final fantasy title might be a bit hard to convince a corporation how it would be worth it in their country of origin. In Japan Final Fantasy is like a national treasure, so teaming up is easy, the land mass reduces the reach they need to make the campaign work and overall it is just easier.

    I know it sucks to have to wait to see how they plan to do it in NA or EU but ye know there are things like the fan festival that's half a year away and such if I"m not mistaken, so maybe they will do something with twitch to make it work. You know how they had Twitch "subscription" set at I think 20-25 and with it you got in-game items. Maybe SE will decide to have a crosspromote livestream with Youtube and Twitch, with Twitch having Side A items and Youtube having Side B items.

    Again it's just brainstorming, because the main thing to keep in mind is if/when they introduce an NA/EU way to obtain these items, they don't want to do it in a way that may have the Japanese players feel cheated or robbed of their money.

    Cause let's say the point system in the Japanese method is like 20 dollars ends up being used but then SE is just like, ok it's 5 dollars if you want the items. Japanese players would be irritated by that because they offered a cheaper option to other countries while they had to play a campaign game with 7-Eleven.
    A promotion that big would have to be Disney level popularity in order to survive in the NA marketplace. The marketing team will have to devise another plan in order to find a way to make this promotion work, thus that's why they added in the live letter that they are discussing possibilities of bringing the content to the west.
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