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  1. #21
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    Yes i do use it. Ihold R2 for my main builders too. L2 and dpad for mudras. Still not enough room for everything. Someone told me u can kb&m on ps4 so going to get those night. I used to game strictly pc so morre comfortable with that.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by TribalReturns View Post
    Yes i do use it. Ihold R2 for my main builders too. L2 and dpad for mudras. Still not enough room for everything. Someone told me u can kb&m on ps4 so going to get those night. I used to game strictly pc so morre comfortable with that.
    Expanded controls does allow you to slot all of your abilities, as I showed in the example image in my last post. You can fit every Rogue/Ninja ability, all Mudra, all cross-class and a potion on one Cross-Hotbar setup. You need a separate hotbar for basic menu functions like teleport, sprint, mounts, etc but you don't use those during combat so you don't really need those on your main hotbar.

    But yes, you should be able to use Keyboard and Mouse in PS4 if thats more comfortable.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 03-26-2016 at 10:51 AM.

  3. #23
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    Yeah if by expanded controls you mean pressin R1 to switch pages , yeah everything can fit but definitely not on one page. Pressing R1 to page switch is just clunky. That split second it takes to switch can be life or death in end game content. Don't get me wrong though Square did an awesome job making the controller work for what would normally be a PC only MMO. Not knocking it.
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    Not to mention you cant move and hit Dpad bindings effectively anyways. Works for casual play and normal raids but im ready to take it up a notch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TribalReturns View Post
    Yeah if by expanded controls you mean pressin R1 to switch pages , yeah everything can fit but definitely not on one page. Pressing R1 to page switch is just clunky. That split second it takes to switch can be life or death in end game content. Don\\'t get me wrong though Square did an awesome job making the controller work for what would normally be a PC only MMO. Not knocking it.
    That is absolute bullshit sorry to say.
    For one you can use expanded controls to be able to hold L2+R2 and R2+L2 to go to another hotbar without having to do that AND you can get used to switching hotbars with R1+face or directional buttons.

    I main SCH on controller and have to use 3 cross hotbars for all of my skills and I have no trouble with it with no delay caused by hotbar switching. You just have to get used to it. If you aren\\'t willing to get used to some change in how you do it then maybe KB&M would be a better fit for you
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    Also: since i hit the stupid limit and am on mobile so no editing.
    Controller and KB&M are equal. Just because you dont know how to properly use the controller in this game and arent willing to listen doesnt mean it is useless for hardcore endgame content
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    First off

    Stop assuming your rotation is perfect

    Especially so if you're this new to the game

    Accept you are most likely making mistakes, and work to improve.

    Take criticism, pay attention, read/watch guides

    Maybe get someone in game to walk you through it

    Get on voice chat and have them give you detailed rundowns, have them watch you in a fight or on a dummy

    Record yourself, upload it, have people critique your play

    Don't assume your absolutely awesome (not saying you are doing this) but accept that you are new and it will take time to learn. Practice practice practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TribalReturns View Post
    Not to mention you cant move and hit Dpad bindings effectively anyways. Works for casual play and normal raids but im ready to take it up a notch
    first, that isnt what expanded cross bar is. it lets you see a second cross bar, so another 16 total things. second, moving and using the dpad is surprisingly easy. you have two thumbs, use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TribalReturns View Post
    Yeah if by expanded controls you mean pressin R1 to switch pages , yeah everything can fit but definitely not on one page. Pressing R1 to page switch is just clunky. That split second it takes to switch can be life or death in end game content. Don't get me wrong though Square did an awesome job making the controller work for what would normally be a PC only MMO. Not knocking it.
    You aren't reading what I suggested. Expanded controls allow extra slots to be used by holding either R2+L2 together or L2+R2 together. You may have to enable expanded hotbar under the settings menu.

    Again, I illustrated this in the image I posted of my own hotbar setup.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 03-27-2016 at 04:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    You aren't reading what I suggested. Expanded controls allow extra slots to be used by holding either R2+L2 together or L2+R2 together. You may have to enable expanded hotbar under the settings menu.

    Again, I illustrated this in the image I posted of my own hotbar setup.
    I dont care where you have yoour buttons I went in game and pressed L2+R2 and nothing happened. If you wanted to be helpful you would've told me that expanded controls are an extra option and where to locate it.
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