So anyone else tired of grinding tomes weekly for gear?

[missybee]

This is useful information. Thank you.

And yes I was Myriads on Phoenix in XI. Beastmaster and Blue Mage and headed up Cactuar Express. LS

Ha! I knew it.

I went out to Movapolos to solo gob pets on BLM, and I saw you on Blue Mage at the one at the entrance.

.__. I occasionally remember oddly specific events.

(Sorry for the brief unrelated aside, OF-sempai)

[Lunaxia]

Funny story. I queued Expert with a couple of FC mates the other day. Upon entering, we realized that no one had queued as a healer. Being the silly people that we are, we decided to just try the dungeon with our setup as it was (SMN, BLM, DRG, WAR).

...and we beat it with very little difficulty.

There is some kind of commentary to be made there.

I'm not surprised. As a WHM, I've never felt so superfluous in a dungeon as I do in the new ones. I can stand there and only have to cast a single Cure over five minutes, which is pretty frustrating when you've got a kit primarily geared towards big heals and not much else. I don't mind DPSing now and then but I'm a healer, I didn't roll WHM to spend the entire dungeon spamming Stone III on the latest content.

[Skivvy]

If I was able to equip multiple classes at once I would spend more time in this game.

This has been one of my biggest gripes about this game as well. I would love to branch out and pick up some of my old jobs, but ages ago I realized that I really don't enjoy spending months fully gearing them up only to have that gear tossed aside when the new patch hits. Because of this, I pretty much only play with my WHM these days.

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, and in previous threads on the same topic, I think changing the cap to be PER JOB vs. per character would be a huge perk for a lot of people.

[Ibi]

Funny story. I queued Expert with a couple of FC mates the other day. Upon entering, we realized that no one had queued as a healer. Being the silly people that we are, we decided to just try the dungeon with our setup as it was (SMN, BLM, DRG, WAR).

...and we beat it with very little difficulty.

There is some kind of commentary to be made there.

Yes, but "Content doesn't require a healer when you're more than 40 item levels (over 20%) beyond the required minimum" isn't particularly interesting or surprising commentary.

I've never felt the same way about any gear in this game as I did when I completed my Warrior AF1, my Bravura, or getting my Thief Knife.

But to put this into perspective, how many hours did you (and, in the case of your Bravura if you did it at 75 cap, your linkshell) have to invest into each of those?

A relic at the 75 cap, if a linkshell was farming all the currency (rather than someone purchasing currency with gil earned through other methods), could represent literally thousands of man-hours invested.

Even a thief's knife, back before Sozu Rogberry was a force-pop, could easily involve an investment of tens or hundreds of hours.

[Enthy]

I'm sick of having to keep track of currency. I use to always spend my tomes, never let them go to "waste" then my inventory fills with gear I'll never get to use because by the time I gear my main job, a patch is released, and everything I have earned is outdated and I'm left trashing my gear for Grand Company seals to buy ventures which I already have 300+ of... ~_~

Now I log in 1-2 times a week and do a few dungeons. I don't really bother getting upgrades right away because often I take long breaks from the game and when I come back my gear is already outdated. I went back to FFXI this past November. I plan to let my FFXIV subscription expire (but why should SE care? They make more money off my FFXI sub $15.00/month)

[Iagainsti]

Funny story. I queued Expert with a couple of FC mates the other day. Upon entering, we realized that no one had queued as a healer. Being the silly people that we are, we decided to just try the dungeon with our setup as it was (SMN, BLM, DRG, WAR).

...and we beat it with very little difficulty.

There is some kind of commentary to be made there.

We used to challenge a lot of runs without a healer before Unsynced dropped. DD and Brayflox hm come to mind. Warrior self healing is OP with great Dps, and the old Bard LB helped .

[Mycow8me]

My pc literally just died this morning while playing left4dead2. I have to build a new one. This is VERY ironic timing. I pretty much already canceled sub since i cant play anyway till a new build. Atleast the video card is salvageable. Pretty sure my motherboard/cpu is toast... i blame the OC.
At any rate, i probably wont be rejoining till 4.0 now unless some content update releases something interesting. Its gonna suck falling behind again but whatever. Ill be on forums till sub expires i guess. Gott make a parts list and get to it... back to console gaming for now.

[UnstablePersonality]

Not so much...I like grinds so.

[Skivvy]

Yes, but "Content doesn't require a healer when you're more than 40 item levels (over 20%) beyond the required minimum" isn't particularly interesting or surprising commentary.

But expert mode is giving players the very latest dungeon experience. It shouldn't be an absolute snooze fest at this point.

But to put this into perspective, how many hours did you (and, in the case of your Bravura if you did it at 75 cap, your linkshell) have to invest into each of those?

A relic at the 75 cap, if a linkshell was farming all the currency (rather than someone purchasing currency with gil earned through other methods), could represent literally thousands of man-hours invested.

Even a thief's knife, back before Sozu Rogberry was a force-pop, could easily involve an investment of tens or hundreds of hours.

I'm not entirely sure of the point you're trying to make here :X While a lot of gear/items in XI did take a good chunk of time, it was still incredibly worthwhile because those items were still used for endgame. With XIV, you get spend months gearing your character, and then in about 6 months, you get to do it all again! There is no real substance there, and no real character growth or improvement. Stats and ilvl are artificially inflated to keep people busy.

[Iagainsti]

But to put this into perspective, how many hours did you (and, in the case of your Bravura if you did it at 75 cap, your linkshell) have to invest into each of those?

A relic at the 75 cap, if a linkshell was farming all the currency (rather than someone purchasing currency with gil earned through other methods), could represent literally thousands of man-hours invested.
Even a thief's knife, back before Sozu Rogberry was a force-pop, could easily involve an investment of tens or hundreds of hours.

You're correct, I was in University, and had the time to invest over the course of many years to get my avatar geared and relevant (camping HNMs while writing term papers comes to mind; hours spent waiting for 15 mins of actual gameplay xD). Nowadays, I wouldn't be able to even scratch the surface of everything I did in FFXI; hence why I love how casual this game can be. I might be able to get in 10-15 hours of gametime in a week, usually 2 hours a night on weekdays being a homebody and primetime tv is lame. This game suits my lifestyle. Those that have the time to invest but do not feel the rewards are sufficient I can sympathize with. I probably would be playing something other than FFXIV if this was 10 years ago.