People are deliberately ruining the story for others

[Lexia]

2. You can skip the cutscenes and respect that you are playing with 7 other people who may not want to be there for an hour, have much faster queue times, and just go watch the cutscenes later.

That like saying their time is more important then person getting enjoyment out of the game. Respect goes both ways. Also this isn't new thing when the content was new like bread new people were still speed running though it and telling people they should skip the CS.

[Morningstar1337]

...Just because the majority agree on something, doesn't make it any less of what it really is. Think of our past history, with practically everyone believing the world was flat. The majority agreeing on one thing, doesn't objectively make it right.

If you still think the majority is objectively right on the matter, no matter what, then... well, I guess that's that. The rest of us don't expect our peers to reflect. We just accept that people fail to understand.

Again, I'd like to emphasize that I do agree on the aspect of someone needing to bite the bullet. Generally, this means the minority accepting the ways of the majority. It's just unfortunate that the majority strictly believe their way is the only way.

I belive that concept is called "Tyranny of the Masses" right?

[Kitano123]

The type of person who would want to force seven others to wait around while they watch cutscenes isnt someone I would want to play with due to their entitled attitude. The world doesnt revolve around you.

[CrimsonThunder]

Have something like awesome glam/music/mount/whatever drop if you don't skip any cutscenes in the entire run or something to that degree.

Watch as the masses flock to "help" the new players enjoy their plot.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

[QUOTE=Ashkendor;362345 Praetorium in particular can be cleared in about 15 minutes but that skyrockets to 50 minutes [/QUOTE]

I've always felt that number has to be exaggerated. In the past week I've done four full story runs through df, skipping mobs but waiting for the new people to watch their cs before continuing on, and at most it went from 15 to 30 ish minutes.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Those dungeons are long enough as it is.
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Um... wut? I'm not even a veteran mmo player and 30 minutes max is still incredibly, incredibly short to me. If anything, I'm of the opinion that dungeons should be longer and have more challenging monsters overall, but comments like this make me wonder why games are designed for people with sub 30 minutes of game time.

OTT: If people want to watch cutscenes and fight the bosses, let them. Skip mobs with the new player in tow, 9/10 times it'll be faster than just taking a penalty and requeing.

[Gunspec]

Find a level 60 warrior. Dare him to solo the entirety of the Castrum Meridium and Praetorium. Tag along and enjoy the story at your own pace.

I did it at ilevel 180, I'm sure it would be even easier at 210+.

[Ashkendor]

I've always felt that number has to be exaggerated. In the past week I've done four full story runs through df, skipping mobs but waiting for the new people to watch their cs before continuing on, and at most it went from 15 to 30 ish minutes.

I thought so too, but myself and a friend took an FC mate through Praetorium (War/Sch level 60 unsynced) and it took 50 minutes. Maybe he's just slow at reading, I dunno. We did go on a Garlean genocide spree, so that's why I specified killing all mobs.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I thought so too, but myself and a friend took an FC mate through Praetorium (War/Sch level 60 unsynced) and it took 50 minutes. Maybe he's just slow at reading, I dunno. We did go on a Garlean genocide spree, so that's why I specified killing all mobs.

Yeah, I've never done a genocide spree. XD Considering the story from what I remember had you 'infiltrating', which I've always attributed to being sneaky sneaks, I always went out of my way to avoid pulling mobs, even on my first run through.

[RocheKat]

The only way they can make the 2 story dungeons not suck for new guys would be to lock the bosses until everyone is out of CS. If they do that then most people wouldn't run them anymore which would cause queue times to go to several hours or more.

They could fix that by increasing the rewards of those two through DR. If they made the rewards 4x (or more) what they are now or better but I had to wait for CS I would still do it.