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  1. #3121
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BroodingFicus View Post
    Lost City HM. confusion eye marker. people moving
    I.... think you mean Antitower? If so, that's one attack that's really easy to avoid ^^;
    (Hiding in case people don't want spoilers regarding how.)
    Just turn away before the cast bar is full and don't turn back until after the animation, and you'll auto-dodge it. No need to move away from the area at all. ^^)
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  2. #3122
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    BroodingFicus's Avatar
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    Selahdis Gharl
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    I.... think you mean Antitower? If so, that's one attack that's really easy to avoid ^^;
    (Hiding in case people don't want spoilers regarding how.)
    Just turn away before the cast bar is full and don't turn back until after the animation, and you'll auto-dodge it. No need to move away from the area at all. ^^)
    Whoops. Fixed it. I did indeed mean Antitower. And yeah, usually no issue at all. I'll move a bit if I'm dpsing and don't want to turn or if I'm healing Ill turn my back...just wasn't expecting someone to suddenly turn it at us so we all got hit (including him).
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  3. #3123
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    Miyha's Avatar
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    Miyha Manaya
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    GREAT ONE OMG: (You can tell I love this threat btw because it helps me blow off steam. |D Only thing that keeps me moderately sane as a healer.)

    So I was healing an A7 where people just COULDN'T DODGE TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. We wiped TWIIIIIIIIICE, all below 10%, because tanks wouldn't move the boss far enough away from the cat AND WERE RUNNING IN THE WAY OF THE BALLS (yes, actually running in their path), and DPS were equally as horrible at dodging the balls. (Oh by the way, priceless statement from one tank: "How do you expect me to dodge the boss's attacks when I am the TANK?" LMAO! QQ; ) The second wipe was after I had brought the group back from a near wipe when the SCH couldn't keep everyone alive after I was sent to the "dungeon", was forced to pop ALL OF MY CDs except for CO (because I couldn't stand still long enough for it to land anything) to try to salvage the run, and FINALLY died after being clipped by the ball trying to focus on getting the tank to non-onehit health values.

    At that point, I really didn't want to stick around for a 3rd disastrous run, so I did a vote abandon, because of that and because I wanted to go grab something to eat. (5:00 PM, haven't eaten all day. :/ ) Figured some people would share my same sentiment (usually with DF it's 3 strikes and we're out for me, but I just wasn't in the mood for a third run today), but INSTEAD... One of the DPS says, "...Why don't you do your job and try healing instead?"

    LOOOOL??? I didn't let Asp. Helios fall off except for when I was focus-healing the tank for a few seconds before the swap, or someone was in one of the boxes and couldn't get the refresh. I was AoE healing whenever was necessary. I wouldn't let Asp. Benefic fall of either of the tanks, even when one was OTing. I was constantly popping cards. I was constantly popping CDs. I was running out of MP because I was RESSING SO MUCH and, at some points, trying to keep certain people alive by spamming Benefic IIs. That DPS says I was just standing there. Not doing anything. And not ressing people either, just letting them die. He said my lack of MP was because I died so much and had to be ressed (correction: I died twice outside of the all-out wipes, one of which I'll admit was entirely my fault). One of the tanks must have been his buddy (the one that made that amusing statement earlier) because he jumped in with the same shit too, which was so lulzy considering he died to some really stupid shit that neither I nor the SCH could have saved him from (see above).

    Naturally, when someone fires at me and I don't deserve it, I fire back. I was even defending the SCH. Yet for some strange reason when I decided to make a snarky comment after we cleared, the SCH said I was "being a child"? Idk if they thought for some strange reason I wasn't healing too (especially after I could keep everyone alive solo when they were picked up and they COULDN'T the one time I was), or if copping attitude back to assholes wasn't one of the tools in their healer toolkit, or what. But... *shrug*

    So I may have made everyone in that run hate me because I "wasn't healing", and because I wasn't afraid to tell that DPS and his tank buddy where to shove it. Sure, I could've just "taken the high road" and not said anything there at the end. But I'm not that classy. Especially when people aren't classy toward me. ;3 In the end, I got the crank I needed and don't need to run A7 again all week, got some quality entertainment, and everyone lived despite me apparently standing and doing nothing, so I DON'T CARE. <3 (And ironically, on the run that got the clear, I had to pop FEWER CDs to keep people alive, and only had to res the one herpaderp tank once because the other tank didn't swap fast enough.)

    I will admit when I could have done something differently though, and that was just before our second wipe (literally a couple seconds before, the AoE took us out) and I thought I could still salvage things without trying to use healer LB3, since I had all of my CDs popped. Was poor judgment on my part, and it was a split-second do or die. Unfortunately, we died. Guess I suck those wrecking balls. (But seriously... HOW do people accuse you of not doing something when anyone with two eyes and a brain can see that you are? Ffs... I have no idea what these guys' definition of "doing nothing" is... and I don't want to know how they define "doing something", because that would probably entail sacrificing your firstborn to give the group immunity from everything they'd otherwise facetank and die from.)

    ANYWHO~. Daily healer rant over. <3 Gonna go finish this tomato soup. :x
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    Last edited by Miyha; 03-09-2016 at 09:34 AM.


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  4. #3124
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    The_Shang's Avatar
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Ok, never though I'd post here since I usually have really chill DF groups or just roll with FC mates.

    First things first. I don't main a healer, I main bard. And I, in particular, don't like to heal anything more than the standard dungeon. So when I get lured into doing a MS roulette with FC mates, this is what happens:

    We rolled Castrum. Party set-up, while I don't remember what the dps was (honestly I don't care, as long as they do their jobs), but my mates were tanking (DRK/WAR respectively). I was on Scholar, because I needed the xp. However, the other healer was a Scholar as well. Now, I checked their gear and they were a new lvl50 (wearing the ilvl90 class gear and such). I was rocking a complete Augmented Ironworks healer said, so I said in chat that the other scholar could dps, since I could soloheal. Ignored. I thought to myself 'oh boy...'. And he was the most annoying scholar he could ever be. You see, I like to keep Galvanize up at all times, especially during the more hectic fights. Guess what the other Scholar did?

    He consistently overrides MY GALVANIZE! My heals are goddamn bigger, don't remove my better shields!>.<

    Best part is, he completely ignored everything I said in chat.

    Now, we cleared everything without much issue, but I was getting annoyed a bit. That is, until we hit the area right before Livia (the searchlight area with all the colossi). This is where my Warrior mate goofed (which she admitted to after we finished). She decided to pull EVERYTHING in that area! You guys remember that little area with the cannons? She thought it would be a good idea to lure all the mobs there (even though the majority leaves after deactivating the searchlights). However, only one cannon was left, which promptly got destroyed. Chaos ensues. People were taking loads of damage from AoE's and I had the feeling I was the only one healing, Lustrating people, keeping up Galvanize and resorting to Physick since Eos got killed in there somewhere. I got aggro from some mobs, I died. Got Raised by the other healer though. The one positive thing he did during this run.

    We went on to Livia, cleared without issue. Cleric Stanced during final fight.

    Anyway, the above just reminds me why I never play healer in anything other than standard 4-mans.
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  5. #3125
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    Sinaloa's Avatar
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    Sinaloa Dorn
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    Scholar Lv 61
    - Healers who dont know their skills - like a Scholar would be able to overwrite your stronger shield. That wont happen. It is an Astro thing.
    - Healers who insist one one person is a solohealer but aren´t flexible enough to take both roles.
    - Healers who judge the other players by gear before they even have seen if they can play well or not.
    - Healers who panic casting sub-par spells and blame the other they couldn´t save the day.
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  6. #3126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinaloa View Post
    - Healers who dont know their skills - like a Scholar would be able to overwrite your stronger shield. That wont happen. It is an Astro thing.
    - Healers who insist one one person is a solohealer but aren´t flexible enough to take both roles.
    - Healers who judge the other players by gear before they even have seen if they can play well or not.
    - Healers who panic casting sub-par spells and blame the other they couldn´t save the day.
    I'm sorry, was that a stab at me? I said before that I do not main a healer. Besides, Galvanize can be overwritten by one cast from another scholar. I've seen the timer refresh. And all I've seen the other healer do was derp around, going into Cleric Stance and then just do nothing. He was looking to be carried, and wasn't new to the instance (no new player message pop-up).

    I've seen plenty of healers act like you do, get off your high horse.

    It's my horror story, deal with it. Obviously you didn't read the whole thing.
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    Last edited by The_Shang; 03-09-2016 at 09:05 PM.

  7. #3127
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    The only way to overwrite a galvanize by a SCH is to cast a stronger one. Either galva or succor.
    Only the AST can effectively remove it with his spell (forced overwrite without looking the amount of shield)

    Since you were both ilevel synch up the only factor was crit

    In 8man if the other heal you can just go DPS and act as sub-heal in time of crisis
    Otherwise kill some thing X3
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  8. #3128
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    The only way to overwrite a galvanize by a SCH is to cast a stronger one. Either galva or succor.
    Only the AST can effectively remove it with his spell (forced overwrite without looking the amount of shield)

    Since you were both ilevel synch up the only factor was crit

    In 8man if the other heal you can just go DPS and act as sub-heal in time of crisis
    Otherwise kill some thing X3
    More to the point, Main Story Roulette can be healed by both fairies completely. Scholar can stay in cleric stance.
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  9. #3129
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    The only way to overwrite a galvanize by a SCH is to cast a stronger one. Either galva or succor.
    Only the AST can effectively remove it with his spell (forced overwrite without looking the amount of shield)

    Since you were both ilevel synch up the only factor was crit

    In 8man if the other heal you can just go DPS and act as sub-heal in time of crisis
    Otherwise kill some thing X3
    See, this is more constructive. I'll keep it in mind.

    Anyway, the reason why I didn't Cleric the entire time is because I'm absolutely not comfortable 'healing' 8-mans. Usually there's too much going on for me to handle at once and Cleric Stancing in that situation doesn't help me relax.

    Also, there was no ilvl sync for the other healer. He was wearing his ilvl90 class gear so my heals *were* better by default. He even had half my health...
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    Last edited by The_Shang; 03-09-2016 at 10:23 PM.

  10. #3130
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    Sinaloa Dorn
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shang View Post
    I've seen plenty of healers act like you do, get off your high horse.
    Healers that spead false Information (e.g. stronger galvanize overwrites the weaker) and calling out the ones correcting them.

    I know I´m an ass right now. But in any sentence you wrote I just thought. "That poor cohealer. Seemingly did nothing wrong and gets bashed here" I had to return that favour.
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